Codmaster - can you just accept that someone doesn't like your prize trainer? Or the methods some people employ? Some training methods may get showy results but some of us may disagree enough with the methods that we will either find another way or be happy with less flashy results. That's me. I think we all have our ego involved to some extent - and get it fed in different ways.
Your responses in this thread have gone back to feeling combative. Kinda like the folks at a public meeting who get into "whose your momma?" crap when someone testifies in opposition to their proposal. So how about "stop it!"?
"Whose your momma
" - wonder where you came up with that from? Heh! Heh! I won't even guess - your secret. Can you "Stop it"?Yes, of course I can accept.
That is why I asked the level and what the goals were in training and also the fact that Connie is highly into "Competition" level OB (at least in her seminars from what I saw).
And if you or anyone else is not into that level of OB (trial or for backyard work- that is perfectly fine with me)! Totally up to each owner/trainer to decide what they want and expect from their dog and themselves. If you are happy/satisfied with however less than "Perfect" obedience with your dog - more power to you as long as you are happy with their obedience and performance!
It is a shame that you get so combative if you disagree with someone (me esp.).
Personally I have come to the conclusion that my dog was capable of very very good obedience and we were working hard toward a burst of AKC OB trialing this year. And we had very high expectations of his behavior under any level of distraction - but that was my decision and mine only as every trainer should make up their own mind.
Just out of my own curiosity - do you believe in/use any physical corrections for your dog when they know a command and do not obey or obey very slowly? Either for OB exercises or even in "Home Behavior"? Just curious?
BTW - not combative at all - just asked a question about a particular trainer who was extremely effective for me, my dog and our training.
Now, if anyone was to ask me about someone like Jean Donaldson or Karen, V. Stillwell or a couple of local trainers/instructors in our OB club, or similar trainers; I can assure you I might get emotional about them and their "stupid" ineffective methods as well.
Dog training methods and choices are such personal things, ain't they.