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Re: Bloat emergency First Aid, questions & links [Re: BowWowMeow] #172963
08/13/11 02:21 AM
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After reading about them on this board I bought the strips, too.

I didn't think about keeping them in various places, but I will now put a few in my car, my purse, etc.

Also - for any emergency program the directions to you emergency vet into your GPS if you aren't close. Don't wait until you need it - o do it now.


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Re: Bloat emergency First Aid, questions & links [Re: PositiveDog] #173679
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Thank you, Kris, for recommending the gas-x strips. That makes so much sense to me. I will get them.

Thanks, Lisa, for merging the the post into the thread. I agree with you on not endorsing the tubing. Only if I lived in a very remote place with an e-vet hours away, I might want to prepare for that. But most of us are better off popping gas-x and rushing the dog to the e-vet immediately, without wasting time on a risky procedure at which we are not skilled.


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Re: Bloat emergency First Aid, questions & links [Re: shepnterrier] #173682
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On the strips, the dosage is 1/2 of the caplets.


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Video of bloat symptoms #194483
11/18/11 10:35 PM
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Re: Video of bloat symptoms [Re: Jane Jean] #194488
11/18/11 11:34 PM
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that was informative! i am glad at the beginning of the video they told us he was going to be ok.


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Re: Video of bloat symptoms [Re: Schnickle Fritz] #194581
11/19/11 03:46 AM
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Great video, I added it to the bloat sticky in the health index smile


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Re: Video of bloat symptoms [Re: MaxaLisa] #194622
11/19/11 10:34 AM
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Thanks for sharing that video on bloat. It was tough to watch, brought back painful memories.

Thank goodness the dog recovered. Little does he know, he may be saving the life of many dogs in the future.


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Re: Video of bloat symptoms [Re: Wolfie] #194626
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Excellent video and I happy the dog was okay.


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Re: Bloat [Re: 3K9Mom] #236992
06/18/12 05:26 PM
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Not sure if this was shared as I haven't read the whole thread yet but my fav resource for bloat info is The Bloat Book. I shared a copy of it on disk for all my puppy buyers.

http://www.dachshund.org/bloat_instructions.html

Cherri


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Re: Bloat [Re: Kibblelady] #243750
07/21/12 01:38 AM
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I started to watch the video and had to stop...will probably watch it bit by bit. It brought back to many memories of the night Thor died and I can only watch it with tears in my eyes.

How I wish a thread like this had been available before Thor bloated. I didn't even know what was wrong with him as I had never even heard of bloat before. I just thought he had an upset tummy, something he had quite frequently (he was such a 'nervy' dog and always suffered from upset tummy problems).

It wasn't just an upset tummy. It was bloat...and Thor died that night due to my ignorance. Please, read this thread again...and again...and again, until you know it by heart and know exactly what to do to save your dog.


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Re: Bloat [Re: 3K9Mom] #268801
01/22/13 05:38 PM
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Is there a proven way to avoid it? Our puppy plays ALL THE TIME!!! And due to our schedules, it's so hard to not feed him until x amount of time before and x amount of time after playing. Especially since he's a puppy!!! And he drinks water like crazy while running around. Would water effect it? Now im nervous and should start reading.... frown

Re: Bloat [Re: Krissy] #268826
01/22/13 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Krissy
Is there a proven way to avoid it? Our puppy plays ALL THE TIME!!! And due to our schedules, it's so hard to not feed him until x amount of time before and x amount of time after playing. Especially since he's a puppy!!! And he drinks water like crazy while running around. Would water effect it? Now im nervous and should start reading.... frown


No, no proven way frown Max's trigger was drinking a ton of water before practicing recalls (I didn't realize he had gulped a bunch at the time), but many dogs seem to have no trigger frown Best thing we can do is take precautions, reduce stress, more non-commercial food, and have gas-x to give on the way to ER, or any time we suspect something might be going on.


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Re: Bloat [Re: MaxaLisa] #268915
01/23/13 07:42 AM
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Would it be possible to crate him after he has eaten?


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Re: Bloat [Re: bianca] #312521
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I think this is a great example of probable stress induced bloat (That is MY assumption, this dog is at the vet after being shot in the line of duty so we know it can't be exercise related!)


Yorba Regional Animal Hospital
8 hours ago
Quote:
Wednesday PM Bruno Update
Steven Dunbar DVM - Yorba Regional Animal Hospital
Bruno is stable today after bloat surgery late yesterday. Last night Bruno started retching and showing signs of distress. Since he is in our hospital under close observation, these symptoms were noted early and he was diagnosed with early stage stomach bloating and torsion.

This is a serious life threatening condition that is caused by the stomach filling with air then turning over on itself. This turning or vulvulous of the stomach results in cutting off of the circulation to the stomach. As the stomach looses circulation tissue starts to die, toxins from the cells and bacteria invade into the body and causes rapid decline in health and if not corrected results in death, sometimes in a matter of hours.

Fortunately Bruno's signs were noticed early and the emergency veterinarian on staff diagnosed the condition and Dr Fahie rushed to the hospital to perform emergency surgery. Dr Fahie was able to correct the condition but it turned out to be a close call. He is on a constant heart monitor (ekg) watching for arrhythmias caused by this condition and he is back on IV fluids and nasal oxygen. His handler RJ was there at the hospital in support of his canine partner during the surgery.

Bruno is in good condition today. He is walking around his cage, alert and loving all the attention. Anytime after this kind of surgery, the prognosis is guarded and with each day his prognosis will improve. The first few days are the most serious.
Bruno is a champ to have lived through 2 such life threatening episodes and bounce back with determination.

Keep up the Bruno vigil, he still has a long way to go and potentially more surgeries.


A comment to all those large breed dog owners out there - Gastric bloat and torsion is a serious problem. There is a preventative surgery that can be performed where we tack the stomach to the inside of the belly wall. This prevents the stomach from turning. At Yorba we perform this surgery with a endoscope through a small incision. The dogs go home the same day with minimal discomfort (less then a spay or neuter surgery) and are usually eating by evening. We offer this surgery at a reduced cost to encourage prevention to pet owners of breeds at risk. This weekend I will post some more information on our website about breeds at risk and pictures of the surgery for those of you that are interested. Go to Yorbaregionalvets.com


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Re: Bloat [Re: 3K9Mom] #339002
02/12/16 08:56 PM
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I lost Kaz (9) and Zak (11) through twisted gut (bloat) and through these losses helped to save the life of
Troy (7) through Recognising the symptoms for the third time and taking action quickly.

The symptoms I believe are: Your dog will START TO PANT HEAVILY and then BECOME EXTREMELY AGITATED. It will THEN TRY TO BE SICK REGULARY , HOWEVER, THE SICK WILL NOT BE YELLOW IT WILL BE WHITE, STICKY BILE, WITH NO FOOD CONTENT TO IT.
Put your hand into this bile and feel it and IF IT IS VERY SLIMEY AND STICKY AND ALSO EXTREMELY WHITE WITH LOTS OF AIR BUBBLES - THEN GET YOUR DOG TO THE VET IMMEDIATELY AT THIS STAGE AS TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

If no action is taken at this stage and your Dog does have bloat it will pant almost continuously and will not be able to lie down for long Periods of time, because it will be too uncomfortable. It's stomach will also start to balloon out. When this happens it has become very serious and your dogs chance of survival will be slim.

The Vet can put a Stefascope to your Dogs stomach and they are able to hear the gases that Bloat
Produces. This was not done with my second dog and he was sent home with antibiotics and by the
Time the Vet confirmed that it was Bloat five hours later, my beautiful boy Zak died after having the
Operation too late. The Bloat was extreme in both Kaz and Zak and sent them both into deep shock.
When they died their bodies were twice their size.

When I saw the above symptoms in my boy Troy, I immediately took him to my Vets and told them I
Believed it was bloat and they confirmed that it was, and within one hour he had the operation and they saved His life.

Be persistent with your Vet if you believe it is bloat and make sure they check the stomach with a
Stefascope - do not make my mistake by allowing an inexperienced Vet to send
Them home with antibiotics.

Vets can also detect Bloat through an X Ray.

To this day - I miss Kaz and Zak and am so sorry I did not understand this condition.

I sincerely hope my story will help all pet owners to be aware of this condition.

Although Vets do not know what causes Bloat - Exercising your dog and then feeding it, either before or after that exercise (whether it be playing or walking) CAN twist the Gut causing Bloat. They recommend
You DO NOT FEED YOUR DOG ON TOP OF SUCH EXERCISING and that YOU WAIT ONE HOUR
BEFORE FEEDING them, BEFORE OR AFTER A WALK.

Regards,

Bev

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