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Tips for Stacking #88914
10/01/10 02:15 AM
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Here are some pictures I took of my young female Fia some years ago.

I hope this can help you when not only stacking your dog, but also trying to get a good picture in the process.

First off let me say I am not a professional photographer.
These pictures were taken with a Sony Cyber Shot 5 mega pixel camera.
I did the stacking, my son-in law took the pictures and my nephew called the dog to get her attention.
I think that depending on the energy level and maturity of the dog three people will usually work the best when taking the pictures.
I started by showing my son in law and nephew some pictures of some correctly stacked dogs in my Urma book. Neither one of them has any experience with, or knowledge of what the finished product should look like. (I shanghaied them into service at a family outing).
I tried to explain how important it was to try to be fairly level with the dog (not shooting down) and also to be positioned directly in the middle of the dog.
Some of the common mistakes (as you will see in my photo examples) are taking the pictures on grass that is too high. Naturally this hides the dogs feet, a freshly cut field works best. You should also try to have a large open field thatís nice and green and without to many background distractions.
The time of day and amount of sun light will also affect your pictures. I find that a little bit of an overcast sky is best. (It was very bright and sunny in my photos).

#1. Start by running your dog around a little to tire them out some and get their tongue hanging out for the pictures. Try walking your dog into a natural stance.

#2. Reach around the front of the dog and gently lift them up off the ground from under the chest a few inches and try to place them down with their front legs as straight and vertical under the shoulder as possible. Look down from the shoulder to see if they are straight. (The photographer can help guide you also).



#3. While holding the dog from under the chest to try and keep the front legs straight, position your foot as a marker for where the dogs inside rear leg (closest to you) should be. Reach over and gently extend the rear outside leg to the point that the hock will be straight and vertical just like the front legs. This can be a bit tricky as all dogs will present themselves differently depending on how far back you pull the leg.
ēItís a good idea to practice in front of a mirror, not only to see if youíre doing it right, but also to see what position your dog looks best in.

#4. Slowly ease away from the dog and hope that they hold the position long enough for a few good pictures(as you can see Fia moved her front legs!)



#5. This is the best partÖ..just when you think you got it the dog will move!!!!
Repeat steps 1 through 4 all over againÖ..headbang

#6. If youíre lucky, after about an hour, and 75 pictures later, you wind up with a picture thatís a keeper (forgetting the bright sun light, the long grass and my knobby knees).



I hope this helps.

Best of luck!
Andrew

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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Jagenstadt] #88915
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great post! smile


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: GSDTrain] #88920
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I remember you posting this on the other forum.. I LOVE it!!!

Thanks for sharing it here too!


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: elisabeth] #88933
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Thank you, that is very helpful!

Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Lexi] #88948
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Now that Andrew has been so kind to post this for us, school begins. If you want a real Critique then you have to try to present us with better pictures a nice stack and a face close up shot. I will try my best to coach to help you get better positioning.

With the proper positioning it is easier to see what is going on. On the stack you want the dogs head facing forward, this gives the viewer a nice clean look, plus it shows the head in profile.

Post your efforts here and I or someone will give you pointers, then when it is good you take those pictures and ask for a Critique, this is the class room.

Have fun.


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Jagenstadt] #88956
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I remember using these tips to stack Yukon.

They were a great help. Thanks!


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Wolfie] #88976
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Sorry, I put pics 3 & 4 and 5 & 6 out of order.


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Jagenstadt] #88978
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Let me see if I can fix it.

And it is Fixed.



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RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
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RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #89004
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Oooh no.... I'm in trouble.. I suck at stacking... lol.

I am going to be brave and try tomorrow... by myself.... wish me luck! wink


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: elisabeth] #89115
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Now we have this great post... Experts, could you prepare some kind of "dictionary" to explain newbies what terms like "pasterns" and "croup" mean?

Also, those members fluent in German could help us with those terms in that language so we can understand korungs on the PDB (where online translators aren't of too much help with those more technical words)

And we will have a beautiful sticky smile


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: Catu] #89187
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Now I am going to have to try this! Thanks for posting!


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Re: Tips for Stacking [Re: weplaytowin] #89421
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I remember a post (I think by Liesje) where there was an outline of the standard GSD and she fit it over a picture of her dog (Nikon?) and if something like that outline was labelled it would help people see what any critiques mean. IMO, her post and those photos were a fantastic guide to conformation and would add to the wonderful information posted here.

Something like what is posted here:

http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/IllStan1.htm

Last edited by Qyn; 10/02/10 01:04 PM. Reason: added link

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