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08/19/22 05:52 PM
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No pics of this ordeal...and let me tell ya...takin' Gypsy to the vet IS an ordeal!

First off, the techs are scared of her cause she barked and kind of lunged at one of them awhile back. This dog is pretty dang strong and hates her feet being touched, so gives a lot of grief for nail trims. I even have to muzzle her so they will even attempt to do her nails.

So first off she gets Acepromazine which rarely helps because her anxiety rules over everything. She HATES car rides too so that doesn't help. So, I figure I will muzzle her before we leave so I don't struggle to muzzle her once we get there- again her anxiety makes it tough unless we do it 1st. At home she sticks her face into the muzzle, lets me fasten it, easy peasy.

I keep a crate divider in the car to keep her out of the front seat and use bungy cords to hold it up. But it wasn't tied up, so she got the muzzle caught on the crate divider, so I had to pull over and take the muzzle off. When we got to the vet, I then had to fight her anxiety to get the muzzle back on and it is about 96 degrees. The parking lot is scorching hot.

We go in, I announce we are there and I plop her butt on the scale. 79.4lbs!

We go in the room, and it is hot and stuffy. Blech! Girls come in, and I leave the room. Gypsy is better for them without me. She got her nails done and all is well. Pay the bill and drive home. On the way though, Gypsy seems to be willing to settle on the console (front feet anyway) until I have to turn, so up and down several times.

Vet told me to give her an extra Ace next time, which I don't like to start with, and that would make 75mgs sick

Once we settled in at home I actually managed to file the sharp edges of her nails too! Not that it was easy at first, but I did prevail in the end.

Today we are enjoying a quiet cooler day. I think we are both wiped out a bit from a simple trip for a nail trim.
The techs said she did really good in there for them. Thank goodness.

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Re: Gypsy nail trim [Re: Zisso] #357707
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It is a pain when the dog is not co-operative for nail trims. The only way I could do Caleb was to have my DH give him treats while I cut his nails. He got a small treat for every snip.

Ciara, on the other hand, has always been very easy to trim her nails. I think one of the big differences is the breeder. Ciara's breeder starts to play with the puppies feet not long after they are born. I've seen videos of pups a week old where she handles them, pets them and plays with their toes at a week old. I think that makes a lot of difference in how accepting they are of us handling their feet and clipping nails.

Caleb did get a little better as he got older, but was never as accepting of the nail trims as Ciara is.

It is funny how they can be better for the vet and the techs if you're not there. I know during the first months of Covid, Caleb was due for his annuals and I couldn't go in with him. When the vet tech brought him back outside, she said he had been fine and she was finding that many of their client's dogs were actually better in the exam room without the owner - just like little kids.


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Re: Gypsy nail trim [Re: Zisso] #357708
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The Barker Sisters the 2nd are not big fans of having their nails done. They'll put up with it with me and have always been good at the vets. Other duos have been easier. Glad the great GB cooperated at the vets for you. I wonder how it would be if you parked a few blocks away? But maybe that would be the routine for getting her to load up to get there? She does keep you on your toes, doesn't she?

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I can't say Nova is better with vet techs in our absence. On our first vet visit, the tech who put her on the exam table held her in his hands and kissed her nose. She's cute smile. She was 30 weeks old.


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Originally Posted by Mary Jane
I can't say Nova is better with vet techs in our absence. On our first vet visit, the tech who put her on the exam table held her in his hands and kissed her nose. She's cute smile. She was 30 weeks old.



You are lucky! First time the vet put Gypsy on the table she immediately expressed her anal glands. She hasn't been on the table since lol


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Johanna that's great that the breeder takes the time to work with the feet. Handling young pups is so important, especially when it comes to the feet. From day one with me I get them use to having feets handled. I make it a positive daily experience and it really has paid off. It's just not an issue to do their nails or ears.

Gypsy just has to keep you on your toes.


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Tonight I was cutting Yaras nails. She is such a good girl she just lays there. But tonight she was a bit anxious so Wayne was in holding while I cut. I have no idea what happened but I did the dreaded too short cut and went into the quick. She started bleeding profusely. I managed to get her ro calm down enough to get her coller and leash on so she won't run everywhere. I put a guaze pad on the bleeding toe and wrapped it gently in the elastic wrap you use at the vet. I get it at a horse supply store when it had a sale. Yara was happy a wrapped it, I guess it felt better now being exposed.
We had to go out the tend to the smoker at 1:30 am and both dogs slipped out we called and Augie showed up, a few minutes later Yara showed up minus a bandage and with a very bloody toe!
I once again wrapped it up and she's ok. Then I had to clean the blood off of the floor. Again.so has anyone else done this or am I the only clumsy idiot!
I hope she forgets what happened and still trust me


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Re: Gypsy nail trim [Re: Zisso] #357742
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I've done that before Sandra!

We have some 'quikstop' or whatever (got at the pet store) to help stop the bleeding (I am bad at trimming nails) - or - in a pinch you can use cornstarch too. You just have to really get a good pinch and hold it against the nail for a bit. Sometimes I need to put it on twice.

(I make Toby cut Agis's nails as a rule because they're dark and he's better at it than me. Neb and Xerxes I still screw up sometimes but at least I can see the quik.)


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Gypsy definitely keeps me on my toes. And I rubbed her feet, between her toes, etc from the day I got her but it didn't work out in a nice way then or long term. At the time, she was always biting my hands. So I changed it up and tried positive reinforcement for letting me touch her feet. That failed as well.

Not sure if it is a great idea, but I have used plain ol' flour for a coagulant before when a nail got cut too short. Just put a pinch on the bleeding toe nail and it stops it pretty fast. I also used it once on a pet bird when it injured a wing. Doesn't take much.


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Flour works fine. I think maybe white flour works better than whole wheat? Maybe that's another use for cornstarch, too. -

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I've always found cornstarch better than flour...but it's possible too I'm just grabbing anything in a panic as blood tracks all over everything!


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Jenn, I never thought about cornstarch! But then, I was grabbing something in a panic when I grabbed flour too LOL


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Neilla will not let me trim her nails so she goes to the Vet's office. The girls always tell me she is good, so one time I mentioned that she refused to let me trim her, the Tech laughed and said I can see that because it takes us 3 gals to trim her, 2 lay down on her and one trims. This last time the tech came out and asked if I could put her muzzle on, she said normally she is very cooperative but some thing (ill mannered dog, lot of crying cats) had her on edge. So they brought her out to me to put her muzzle on.


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It always feel bad that we need to muzzle them at any time, but I sure am glad I muzzle trained Gypsy. One gal has to hold her and one to trim her. I think this last time it was the easiest time they had with her. I know she was fussing n fighting them by the bill...on those fussy trips, I pay $30. On a settled day I pay $15. I did give her 50mg of Ace last trip so I guess it helped.

I have a good basket muzzle for G, and trained her to put her nose in there with french fries LOL


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That's a smart way to muzzle train Bev! What won't dogs do for french fries!


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Ciara won't do anything for french fries - she doesn't approve of them. rofl

I have better luck with cheese.

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Ciara must read the nutrition columns...

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Originally Posted by middleofnowhere
Ciara must read the nutrition columns...



rofl


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Originally Posted by middleofnowhere
Ciara must read the nutrition columns...



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