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08/21/20 12:34 AM
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When I take Agis out, especially to a big park near us (walking trails and paths, some of which are off-leash), Agis often has dogs react to him - whether he's walking or running.

Today on our walk, for instance, we had a leashed dog that was coexisting fine with another dog (the owners were chatting) snarl and growl at Agis (we were passing on the other side of the path, which is wide enough for two cars). It then followed us snarling. This dog was significantly larger than Agis. Agis hackled but I told him it was okay and he lowered his hackles.

We then got to an off-leash trail, and he got to run around - when he was trotting past some dogs walkers and their dogs, an (on-leash) hound let out a huge bark and bay at him (he jumped and I told him it was okay, we kept moving).

I don't get it - why do dogs react to him? They don't react at Xerxes, our dog-reactive poophead beagle, who actually IS a jerk (though controlled for the most part, but he still gets bolshie body language). Agis just wanders along minding his own business, on the off-leash trail he interacts with other dogs politely.

He doesn't get in a dog's face, doesn't stare, doesn't posture that I've noticed...he weighs 51.5lbs at a year old, so he's not big, he looks like a mini Rottie, but is not a big intimidating Rottie lookalike. He was neutered before we got him, so I'm thinking between 11-12 weeks (blergh), so it's not an intact dog thing either.

Any thoughts? I would like to be able to take him for walks without him being subject to this. The snarling dog that followed us today I really did not like, and the owner kept saying in a baby voice 'Why don't you like that dog?' which I just wanted to turn around and punch her. Luckily she entered an off-leash area soon after we passed them.

Toby pointed out that when we go for walks in the neighbourhood, dogs don't react to Agis. But I am flummoxed why in the park they do and not at Xerxes, who clearly IS reacting to the other dogs.


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What is Agis' tail position when other dogs react to him?


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Good question - I'm not certain (clearly I should look) but I think it's curled over his back. He's got a bit of a husky-type tail.


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I think that might have something to do with the reaction as I believe when they carry the tail up like that it's usually interpreted as a sign of dominance. Agis might not be dominant, but the tail curled up over his back might be taken that way by another dominant dog.


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Oh maybe. I'm not sure it's always curled, or if it curls once they react to him. I'll have to keep an eye out - good call, thanks!

It's still weird it doesn't happen in the neighbourhood though - he met a GSD/Boxer pup this morning and they got along like houses.


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What a dolt...yesterday we walked the boys in the park, and on the off-leash trail he got barked at by a big dog (I was already past it so had to turn around). He jumped, and then like an idiot circled to sniff the dog from the rear...what a dolt!

I gave a leave it command and he broke off.

He definitely does carry his tail curled high on the off-leash trails. He lowers it once we're heading home. So perhaps it's that he's excited to be at the park?


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Maybe he's excited, but the other dog may be interpreting it as a challenge.

I remember reading so time ago that dogs have a hard time communicating with dogs that have had their tails docked. The tail set is part of their language and means of communicating with one another.


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It is. I'm thinking you're right about the tail.

He DID meet a beautiful 6-month old sable GSD and they had fun!


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