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01/21/20 01:24 AM
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Does anyone have any opinions whether good or bad about the drug, Metronidazole? My daughter's dog is having an IBS flare up and this was one of the meds suggested for him. If you have any personal experience using this med for your dog I would really appreciate it.


Sean - 1998/2014
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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352151
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This medicine sounds familiar. I looked it up. My dog may have had this medicine before, but I don't recall a reaction to a medicine. Have y'all contacted the vet about the concerns? I hope the dog's flareup relaxes soon.


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Bella: Ragdoll. Now living with her best cat friend Ty at an oversized cat condo in Crazy Cat Lady City.

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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352154
01/21/20 08:39 AM
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Hi SRM, I know this medication well, hopefully will be able to get back and post tomorrow - first day back at work tomorrow after break and I need to get to sleep. I am not ready to transition back to an early morning schedule sleep


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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352155
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I have used metronidazole (flagyl) a lot-so just my experience. Wolf had a pretty weak stomach and developed diarrhea when he was stressed and that took care of it with no side effects I could see. With that in mind, when Mars had loose stool we gave him one tab and that worked for him-again nothing else happened I noticed.

I don't know anything about IBS so no help there.

good luck,
MJ

Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: DarkEyes] #352157
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Originally Posted by DarkEyes
Have y'all contacted the vet about the concerns?


The vet is the one who diagnosed possible IBS and brought up maybe using Metronidazole. I'm trying to explore all options. BTW, this is a new vet but she seems happy with them so far.

Lisa, get some sleep and check back whenever it's good for you. Thanks, I always appreciate your help.

MJ, glad to hear both Wolf and Mars had no side effects from the med. Since you mentioned Wolf would have symptoms when stressed I wonder if that could be the antecedent. My daughter has not been feeling well and maybe her dog has been picking up on it. Just a thought.

Last edited by SeanRescueMom; 01/21/20 01:31 PM.

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If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart I'll stay there forever.
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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352159
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Luc had an iffy stomach and was prone to diarrhea so he got it a few times - no side effects that we noted, helped fast.

A question - and I may be way off base - I had a foster cat that had very bad IBD (so similar to IBS) - almost died a few times, was hospitalized after which I started fostering her (she'd eat if I hand fed her - I was asked to assess whether she needed to be euth'd and I said no). She had diarrhea every day I had her until in the midst of a very bad episode in desperation I found something online saying that a grain-free diet was best - mind you, this is a CAT, an obligate carnivore - but I got some raw ground beef, formed it into balls and popped it down her throat - her poops went to normal and she started eating on her own. I transitioned her to a grain free diet (which to be fair, we no longer feed the dogs) and she never had diarrhea again for the rest of her life. Just wondering what has been explored in terms of controlling through diet?


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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352164
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I have used it successfully. No issues.


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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352171
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Originally Posted by SeanRescueMom
Originally Posted by DarkEyes
Have y'all contacted the vet about the concerns?

The vet is the one who diagnosed possible IBS and brought up maybe using Metronidazole. I'm trying to explore all options. BTW, this is a new vet but she seems happy with them so far.


I would think that despite being new, she would have had decent amount of training and mentorship to make that suggestion. If the research shows the benefit greater than the risk, it's reasonable to start with that. It doesn't hurt to get a second opinion if there is still doubt.


Abbey: 12 years old German Shepherd

Suki: 12 years old grumpy Calico

Bella: Ragdoll. Now living with her best cat friend Ty at an oversized cat condo in Crazy Cat Lady City.

2 little angels/monsters in disguise: My 2 boys
Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: SeanRescueMom] #352175
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Hi SRM,

Metronidazole (flagyl) is an important tool in fighting certain gut infections and it's also a powerful anti-inflammatory.

Some dogs get better with a short course, others get worse again once it's taken away. Some things, like giardia, may respond better to panacur.

If it looks like long term use is needed, tylan is usually a safer bet, if it's tolerated and works.

Jazz's IMS has jazz on doxycycline for her IBD and we also pulse flagyl as needed. I don't use it more than 5 days in a row here. The IMS believes that it's not a matter of IF a dog will react to it, but WHEN? Some dogs don't experience the neuro effects, but many do. The three dogs I've had have shown sensitivity to it, all at different dosages and lengths of treatment. That said, it's a super valuable ble tool in the arsenal and I use it regularly here.

For side effects, look for an over excitement and rigidity, which I often watch the tail for, or look for opposite - difficulty controlling stability and getting wobbly and can look like a strange case of DM in this type of reaction.

They used to think that IBS was the non-inflammatory version of IBD, but recent studies are showing some micro-inflammation in what they have been diagnosing as IBS.

For many dogs, a course of flagyl or panacur or something, might do the trick. In some dogs, this is a first step in long term management with drugs.

Jazz's IMS is a big believer in soluble fiber and probiotics. I'll pop back later and post a few links, but this is already long and I want to get it posted. I know you have been dinking around with the diet. Has there ever been high end normal or elevated eosinophils on any bloodwork?


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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Metronidazole???? [Re: MaxaLisa] #352180
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Originally Posted by DarkEyes
Originally Posted by SeanRescueMom
Originally Posted by DarkEyes
Have y'all contacted the vet about the concerns?

The vet is the one who diagnosed possible IBS and brought up maybe using Metronidazole. I'm trying to explore all options. BTW, this is a new vet but she seems happy with them so far.


I would think that despite being new, she would have had decent amount of training and mentorship to make that suggestion. If the research shows the benefit greater than the risk, it's reasonable to start with that. It doesn't hurt to get a second opinion if there is still doubt.


I guess I did not word it properly so there was a misunderstanding. When I said a new vet I meant my daughter changed vets so new to her but not new at all to veterinary medicine. wink Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by MaxaLisa
I'll pop back later and post a few links, but this is already long and I want to get it posted.


Thanks, Lisa, but no rush especially since I just got off the phone with my daughter and her boy has not had any loose poops for two days. The vet is holding the script for Metronizadole for now. Whenever you have a chance I would appreciate the links. In the meantime, we'll be keeping our fingers crossed. crossedfingers


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If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart I'll stay there forever.
Carleton DOB unknown
Neely - 2003/2015
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