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Hi All. I know it's been a LONG time since I've posted on the forum. Three years ago, my territory expanded and my job took over my life and I rarely had a chance to log on Then in Oct 2016 Phoenix had emergency surgery to remove his left kidney and after the biopsy, he received a diagnosis of renal carcinoma. A follow-up x-ray showed he had an inoperable mass in his lung. On May 6, 2017, we said a very tear filled good-bye to him. I took the loss much harder than I expected and it took me nearly a year to feel that I was ready for another dog. This past May I came across a 1 year old HW+ GSD on Petfinder named Bentley and put in an application with the rescue, Maple Leaf Mutts, in Rutland, VT. On May 19, we started fostering Bentley with the agreement that once he was finished with his HW treatment, we would officially adopt him. He received his first injection on June 13 and he is scheduled for his next two injections on July 13 and July 14. He's a typical puppy who had never ending energy and the first injection didn't seem to faze him much other than a day of feeling a bit punky. Keeping him "quiet" has been like nailing jello to the wall. My SO and I are not always on the same page when it comes to how to deal with this issue. We are muddling thru it, but it's tough at times. Training the male human is much harder than training the male GSD in the house.

I'll be more of a regular on the forum soon as I am retiring in December after 28 years in Federal Law Enforcement. My original plan was that we would get a puppy when I retired as this dog would be the Therapy dog I had hoped to have in Phoenix but the job wouldn't allow me to dedicate time to volunteering on a consistent basis. One look at Bentley face and that all changed for me. I still intend on training him for Therapy work and look forward to the time I can dedicate to the training and volunteering.

Anyhow, it's good to be back and hope to catch up on all that I've missed since I've been gone.

Oh, and here is a pic of the new furry beast.

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Diana, I am so glad you found your way back to the forum and your cyber family. You came back right after the Forum had a major software upgrade. I am glad you found Bentley.


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Congrats to you and Bentley! thumbup He is absolutely gorgeous and I'm sure will make a great therapy dog once you work matters out with your SO. I love what you said, i.e. "training the male human is much harder than training the male GSD in the house." wink


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So glad you found it back here too!!! Your new pup is a real beauty wub Retirement has been great for me and I'm thinking your really going to enjoy it too. Just having time all day with your pup is just the greatest feeling ever.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your sweet Phoenix. gsdhalo

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Bently is so pretty! He seems gentle just looking at that picture. Good luck!


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Thanks all for the welcome back! And don't be fooled by that snapshot of Bentley...Gentle is not a word we use to describe him...Rammy, bull in a china closet...nutjob...crazy butt....all words that apply! LOL!! His energy and zest for life is refreshing and has brought so much joy and lightheartedness to our lives again. He thoroughly enjoys life!

It's that exuberance and and enthusiasm that makes keeping him quiet right now. He received his second and third injections last Thursday and Friday evenings. He had a hard time each night and felt punky Friday morning and Saturday morning, but by Sunday, he was back to his rambunctious self! However, just seeing how uncomfortable/painful he was for hours after each shot started a slow burning rage inside of me thinking that his ending up with Heartworm was totally preventable. But then again, if his owners had been responsible, he wouldn't have ended up at the shelter after being found running loose for the third time. Only this time they refused to come get him. Of course, their loss is our gain!!!

We plan on making his life from here on out a great one!


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Congrats on Bentley keeping you amused and moving. But on heartworm, I've known very responsible people who despite being careful and medicating still had dogs come down with heartworm. There is also a slow kill method that is easier on the dog than the fast kill. And some dogs are escape artists. One I got (from my backyard actually) would go through closed windows to get out, he would climb 6 ft kennel fences (at the vet) and then he let all the other dogs loose by opening their kennel doors. And if you think he is rambunctious now, imagine how he was when he was younger. At any rate, he is fortunate to have found you.

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Middle, I will not disagree with you that even dogs owned by responsible owners may end up having dogs end up with Heartworm. I totally understand where you are coming from with regards to my statements/judgments. I am not making them lightly or recklessly when it comes to Bentley's former owners.

From the information I was provided by the rescue and in the shelter's notes, it appeared that Bentley's former owners were not responsible or careful or really gave a crap about Bentley's health. Bentley came into the SC shelter emaciated, intact, HW positive and with no proof of vaccinations (not even puppy vaccines). He was known by the shelter folks because he had been there two previous times. The last two times, the owners came in and claimed him. This last time, the shelter was told they could keep him after the owners were going to be fined for not having proof of rabies vaccine and a loose dog.

Unfortunately, because Bentley was beyond Stage 1 (he was diagnosed as being at Stage 3 by the rescue's vet), the slow kill method was not an option for his treatment.


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I am sorry to hear of your loss, but glad you found Bentley!

It's really hard to look at some of these dogs and how they are neglected. Best of luck with both of the males!


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Bentley is a great looking dog. I'm glad he found you.

My current dog was also HW+ and had to go through the same protocol. I brought him home from the shelter 2 days after his last shot and he was in so much pain. He was easy to keep quiet, as opposed to Bentley.

Now, two months later he is coming into his own and showing spunk.

I'm so glad Bentley has a second chance with you. I bet life will be interesting with him in it.

PS - He doesn't know it, but my boy has been deemed healthy enough to be neutered. I'm having that done the end of August to give him more time to benefit from regular feedings and a healthier life.

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Lisa, thanks so much. Training the males in the house has been interesting, so say the least!

Bonnie, have you seen any residual effects from the treatment? Do you know how have his heartworm load was? We were told that we can take him to our vet for his 30 day check-up after shots 2 and 3. At that visit, we are going to have our vet do a full physical exam with bloodwork and urinalysis so we have a baseline from that point forward.

We are a little over a week post shots 2 and 3 in the HW treatment protocol. Bentley was punky for two days after the injections and then was back to his rowdy self. The holistic vet and I have been working together to see if we can find something to calm him down, but with a young energetic dog...short of sedating him, it's just not happening. We've had to be more "boot camp/drill instructor" with him when he has his crazy energy breakouts. There is only so much OB training and mind games he's will to do. We take him a very slow short walks ok'd by the rescue's vet but it's not near he exercise Bentley needs. I've attached a photo of him a few moments after I let him out of his crate after we had to put him in the crate repeatedly because he couldn't stop tearing around the house. He was not a happy camper we kept stopping his fun, and I think the look on his face says it all...usually when I call his name, he comes over all wiggly with a "smile" on his face...I called his name this time and all he did was give me this look...

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You mean - if I can't run around the house then let me run around outside?

Hope you can keep him contained until his treatment is over.


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He is beautiful. Can I say in the house that the drag leash is your friend. I never used one much before Neilla, but a full grown dog I couldn't just scoop up like I did with the pups. She learned when she had the leash on she had to behave.


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Val, we've gone thru two nylon drag leashes in the past week. cry This is where my "failing at training the human male" has come into play. The human male in the house, who is home all day now that he's retired, doesn't keep an eye on the male GSD as closely as I do when I'm home and both leashes were chewed into several short sections. headbang We are currently using a 6ft leather leash (training leash) until the two I recently ordered from Amazon get delivered today. I won't even talk about the "your boy decided to chase a squirrel after I took off the leash in the backyard when we got back to the house from our walk." text that I received at yesterday while I was in court. I think my eyes literally rolled into the back of my head when I read it.

Don't get me wrong, SO does a great job with Bentley, but at this point, I don't think I should be needing to remind him that while Bentley appears to be feeling great and looks healthy, he isn't and still needs to be kept quiet. Last night, I printed out a picture of a heart full of heartworms and stuck it on the computer screen as a reminder of why I am so strict about keeping Bentley as quiet as possible.

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Perhaps you could crate the SO while you are at work?

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The rescue didn't have a record of the severity, just that it was advanced. Bennie was a back yard dog for years.

He had a difficult time with treatment. His back was so swollen on one side and he walked like an arthritic old man. Even on prednisone, he was pretty stoved up. He was generally not in good shape.

I did as you did and took him to my vet (where I work) at the 30 day mark and had all his blood work and a urinalysis run. The tests were surprisingly good. The only concern was his thyroid. He registered as low as he could be and still be in the normal range.

If his thyroid is off, that may be what contributed to him being so lethargic. However, Ruth, another member here fostered a heartworm positive dog and he took awhile to recover as well.

We're going to rerun a thyroid panel at the end of August after being on better foods and supplements.

I'm sorry it's so difficult keeping Bentley quiet. The risk, of course, is dying worms blocking his heart of lungs as they die off. That's why absolutely no jumping.

It can take 6 months or more before the heart and lungs retain strength.


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Middle...absolutely awesome! Best advice EVER!!! Was contemplating using an ecollar on him when I'm home since positive reinforcement hasn't been working.

Bonnie, even with the load of worms Bentley had, I'm surprised at the energy he had before starting the protocol and during treatment. Knowing he had a large load, that's why I keep telling my SO that it's imperative we keep him as quiet as possible. The rescue's vet was involved in the clinical trials for this protocol when he was in vet school. The trial dogs were in a shelter in Florida and could not have any activity restrictions in that environment. He said during the trials, none of the dogs on the protocol had complications. With that said, Dr. Bruce was adamant in telling us to keep activity as low key as possible. He said leashed SLOW walks were ok but like you said, no jumping, ball throwing, chasing squirrels/chipmunks. I think my SO failed to keep listening after the "none of he dogs on the protocol had complications. We have not seen/heard any coughing (even before treatment started), but he breathes rapid shallow breaths while resting. He was on pred and doxy for nearly 2 months prior to the injections and was kept on pred and doxy for 30 days after the first shot.

I didn't realize it would take that long for the heart and lungs to regain strength. I was told that he could still test positive at his 6 month test but not to worry.

How was/is Bennie's appetite? Before we started the injections, Bentley had a fantastic appetite but since the first shot, it been a struggle to get him to eat a full meal. I've taken to adding canned food to his kibble but am now thinking I may try some home cooked for him. He's lost the weight we were able to put on him before the injections. Since my SO has retired, I've broken up the meals to 3 smaller meals per day to see if that helps...some days he'll eat all three and on others, like this morning, he had no interest in eating.


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Bennie ate very little at the shelter, but within days was eating well here. He gets goat milk with his food twice a day. I wonder if Bentley's loss of appetite is from treatment, or is a German shepherd thing. Skye would go off food sometimes all her life. You might try goat milk. It's great for them and might coax him to eat.

Bennie did get doxy and pred leading to the first shot, then for the 30 days before shot 2 and 3. Our vet continued pred on a tapered dose for a month after the treatment ended.

Bennie panted a lot, even with little exertion. He even would huff in his sleep and I worried about that. It seems like that lasted a long time, but now I can't remember when it stopped.

I've really just started to relax with Bennie, although our walk this morning may have been a little long for him. He still doesn't have a lot of stamina.


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I'm with you wondering if the appetite is from treatment or a German shepherd thing. I am also wondering if a lack of exercise/activity is contributing to it as well. Phoenix would go off food at times too or decide he just didn't want to eat what he'd been eating for the past year...whether it be kibble, homecooked or raw. I was hoping to finally have a shepherd who actually ate with gusto and/or with consistency. wink I will look into getting some goat's milk at the farmer's market and trying that. I tried adding bone broth last week and that didn't entice him one bit. I'm wondering if when we first got him and while he was on the higher does of pred if that attributed to his great appetite and as the pred was tapered after the second shot and now getting no pred if this is his natural appetite...Still going to try the goat's milk! Thanks for the suggestion!

So Bennie's panting has stopped? Dakota was a heavy panting dog thru his entire life, so I wasn't so concerned about Bentley's panting while he's awake as much as the rapid breathing when he's sleeping/napping. I'm sure I'm going to take note of it more now.


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I know about nothing regarding HW treatment, but wondering if you treated with probiotics after the doxy? Some dogs do great on it, others not as great. A number of people dogs have done well on the mercola pet probiotics.

Does CoQ10 help the heart after HW treatment?


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