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Tacking the stomach #346839
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After Shoshi bloated I ended up having all my pups stomach's tacked to prevent bloat with torsion. I had planned to have Kody done but I'm having second thoughts about putting him through such a big surgery. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think its a good preventative measure or the risk of the surgery and recovery not worth it?? Just wondering what other think.

Also, if you were to have it done what age range would you want to do it in? He's still a growing pup.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: Shilohsmom] #346842
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I thought they could do it arthoscopically? But I don't know for sure. Max was tacked when he bloated. I do believe that tacked dogs can bloat, but I would feel better if my dog were tacked. Not sure if I would do it if it couldn't be done arthoscopically, and no clue about age. Long term GSD should know more about this than I.

As a side note, Jazz has the shape and disposition, and weak collagen that makes her prone to bloat, sometimes that makes me nervous.

On the flip side, tacking a stomach could have an affect on motility and the use of the stomach to help digest, or at least I have seen that argument, no clue how true it is.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: MaxaLisa] #346843
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I know they can still bloat but they aren't suppose to have the torsion which causes the most damage. I'm really on the fence here. I'm not aware of it being done arthroscopically, I believe all my dogs have been opened up for it. I think if it were done arthroscopically then I'd have an easier time with it, but its always been a major surgery.

Look forward to other opinions as well.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: Shilohsmom] #346846
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I mispoke, I meant to say that I have seen dogs torsion that have been tacked. I do not know why they fail.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: MaxaLisa] #346849
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I think I read there's a 3-4% failure rate on the tacking. Not sure why they fail, perhaps something pulled it apart??


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: Shilohsmom] #346850
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I sold a pup to a couple that had bought a puppy and had the stomach tacked as a preventative measure. Unfortunately, it pinched the intestine and the intestine died and the puppy died as a direct result of the surgery. How sad!

If I knew that the lines I was purchasing had a significant history of bloat, I might consider this surgery to prevent it, but otherwise I don't like the idea of doing this to dogs without a clear genetic likelihood of having it happen.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: Selzer] #346851
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The late Barker the Elder the First had hers tacked as a part of bloat surgery. She survived and lived many more years. Perhaps if I were having a bitch spayed I would consider tacking the stomach. I do not remember if I had it done on BTE 2nd with her spay. (spayed at 4 or 5 because of increasingly wretched false pregnancies).

Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: middleofnowhere] #346865
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I've either read or seen on TV maybe ?? It is being done using laparoscopic (not sure of spelling) surgery--small incisions and mini camera--much less invasive. Since it's fairly new though there's likely a limited amount of animal hospitals that can perform the laparoscopy.

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I'm still on the fence on this one. I think the majority of the gastroplexy's done are done laparoscopically, but its still a major surgery with a long recovery. With females it seems easier to decide as it can be done during the spay when the dog is already opened up. I'm thinking I'll have it done but just can't say for sure yet.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: HONOROFLINUS] #346874
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Originally Posted By: HONOROFLINUS
I've either read or seen on TV maybe ?? It is being done using laparoscopic (not sure of spelling) surgery--small incisions and mini camera--much less invasive. Since it's fairly new though there's likely a limited amount of animal hospitals that can perform the laparoscopy.


Just wanted to say Welcome to the boards and thanks for your feedback. Its actually a surgery that's been around for awhile but your right, it can be done laparoscopically. There is still a long recovery afterwards.


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Re: Tacking the stomach [Re: Shilohsmom] #346895
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I never had my gsd tacked... She never had issues but over time, we have habitually made sure to feed her only when periods of rest are occuring after eating. So generally by the time she ate, she was burned off her playful energy.


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