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My dear sweet Eli #346699
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I just wanted to start a thread on my dear sweet Eli. He's 11 years old. A recent vet visit showed his weight at 126 lbs which is pretty steady. He's not overweight, he's huge! Of course, being so large is extra hard on his joints eek

Medically, he has osteoporosis in his front elbows and DM in the back. He has an enlarged heart, small irregular kidneys and his liver isn't exactly 100%.

Despite all this my little trooper keeps on going! His spirit and love for life continues. He plays with his brother Kody and even shows interest in toys again. So how are we doing this?? Let me share in case it can help anyone else. Please understand that each case is different and in so many ways I've been blessed with his responses.

For the DM and the dragging of his back feet I had shoes fitted with metal plates so they (the metal plates) scratch the ground instead of his feet. Without the plates his shoes would only last one or two walks as the rubber would just get worn away. Our walks are pretty limited now, I don't want to go far from the home in case he were to go down. But he so enjoys his walks.

His back legs are pretty wobbly and have been for some time. The good news is that it hasn't gotten worse. In addition to walks I give him massages and stretches and range of motion excercies each day.

His fecal incontinence is pretty much under control with the meds (mentioned in that thread) and the behavior modification. He's really got the barking and pooping down to an art!!! I feed him on a strict time schedule and try to never leave him alone for more than a few hours. It's not so much about me having to clean up a mess but I don't want him feeling bad about having an accident.

Pain management has been a top concern for me. He's on Adequin injections monthly. He also takes Gallaprant and Tramadol daily. Recently I started him on CBD. I bought some pills from Canna-Pet but also found some cookies for dogs at the medical marijuana dispensary. We've just started the cookies and so far so good. I also have him on Glucosamine supplements with turmeric and Cholodin for mental awareness.

I took him to the Vet recently for a pain check and am thrilled that we seem to have things under control.

Eli has been a wonderful and devoted friend for 11 years. I am so thankful to be able to pay him back with the loyalty he has given me. I'm hoping that something about his journey might help others. I will continue to update as I learn more and am open to any suggestions others may have. I wish he could do some water based therapy but with his fecal incontince that is not an option.


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Rosa

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Re: My dear sweet Eli [Re: Shilohsmom] #346700
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Hugs!! You are such a great dog mom.


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Re: My dear sweet Eli [Re: GraciesMommy] #346701
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Originally Posted By: GraciesMommy
Hugs!! You are such a great dog mom.


Ditto, I couldn't agree more! Eli gives you unconditional love and in return you give him the best quality of life. hug


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Re: My dear sweet Eli [Re: SeanRescueMom] #346702
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Rosa, you are doing some amazing things for your beloved boy. I just started Sammy on CBD oil also. I bought the human version because it's more concentrated and is cheaper than buying a brand made just for animals. This sounds weird since I live in a state where I can buy anything, but I ordered from Lazarus Naturals (Seattle based) based on many recommendations from people using it for dogs. It's a very good brand.


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How long has he been dragging his feet?
Not want to bring up a terrible subject but the course of DM (in both of our pups that had it) is usually only 6-9 mo till it has affected chest and etc. muscles.

Also DM is absolutely painless for the dog - they lose control of muscles as the disease progesses up the spinal cord from tail toward head.

Best of luck to and your boy! That is a terrible disease for dog and owner to have to go through. Your boy has a tremendously loving owner, it is clear!

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Thanks for your kind responses. Eli was diagnosed about a year and a half ago (I'll have to look that up for everyone) after all other conditions were eliminated through testing. This is why I'm sharing this. NOT that I have the cure, oh how I wish that were true. But just to share a little bit of hope that we've had.

By the way the picture above was taken when he got a new pair of shoes but before I put the plates on them. I'll share a picture of that soon, got to take one. The problem was all the shoes would be torn apart and worn down in the front from all the dragging. I had first taken the shoes to a shoe repair place hoping they would fit them with some type of plate but they were no help at all. I then thought of a sheet metal worker and that maybe they could help.

Went down with the shoes and a lot of positive vibes and conveinced the guy he could do it!!! It wasn't hard, I just needed some plates I could cement on to the end. I've since worked with one other sheet metal worker and both have been amazing. Eventually the plates would wear off and break but I keep extras around and am always able to attach a new plate.

I'm amazed every day that Eli is still walking. With his osteoarthritis in the front a cart for the back is not an option. He has gone down in the back at times but we manage. I call it 'the power of Mom' when I'm actually able to lift him up and get him back on his feet, but it works.


Rosa

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Originally Posted By: Kris
Rosa, you are doing some amazing things for your beloved boy. I just started Sammy on CBD oil also. I bought the human version because it's more concentrated and is cheaper than buying a brand made just for animals. This sounds weird since I live in a state where I can buy anything, but I ordered from Lazarus Naturals (Seattle based) based on many recommendations from people using it for dogs. It's a very good brand.


Thanks for the recommendation Kris, I'll check them out. Right now were using Holistic Hound but I'm new at this so I'm sure I'll need to try different things before we find what is best for him.

I would really love to get him off, or at least cut down on the amount, the Gallipant (sp?) as its so darn expensive for a dog his size. Unfortunately, there is no generic for this and with Eli's kidney/liver issues its the best RX I can get for him.

I would love to hear how Sammy is doing on it so please keep us posted.


Rosa

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I just love Eli's face. So you use all your brain to match all your heart to care for your big boy.

It seems to work crossedfingers thank the Lord.

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Re: My dear sweet Eli [Re: Mary Jane] #346715
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Look at the big handsome boy. You have done great by him all your love and super care.


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Re: My dear sweet Eli [Re: Shilohsmom] #346718
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Rosa, are you getting the galliprant rebates. I got $20 back for each of Buddy's scripts. If Eli has a higher dose, it could be $30.

Go to elanco.com to check it out. The code is galliprant30.

It helped Buddy so much. His cbd oil was in capsules by PetReleaf. I was fortunate to be able to order them through the store where I worked, so it was less expensive for me. Still about $58.00 though each month.

I would have done anything for him, just as you do for Eli. Here a lucky guy to be part of your pack.


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Rosa, are you getting the galliprant rebates. I got $20 back for each of Buddy's scripts. If Eli has a higher dose, it could be $30.

Go to elanco.com to check it out. The code is galliprant30.

It helped Buddy so much. His cbd oil was in capsules by PetReleaf. I was fortunate to be able to order them through the store where I worked, so it was less expensive for me. Still about $58.00 though each month.

I would have done anything for him, just as you do for Eli. Here a lucky guy to be part of your pack.


I wasn't aware of that, thank you so much Bonnie!!! Every little bit helps and that will be a big help to me! Eli gets two 60mg tabs a day so I'm thinking that would be 30.00 back each month groovy I'm heading over to that website now!


Rosa

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Eli is so handsome, so dignified looking. It's hard to imagine the years have gone by so fast and with the ravages of time our beloved dog are aging and infirm.
I read the list of vitamins and meds you're giving him and I can tell that he is in the best care he can have. Working with a sheet metal worker was a brilliant idea. I look forward to pictures of his shoes with the plates on them.
Hugs to you Rosa you are an excellent Mom.


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Here's a couple of pictures of his shoes

IMG_0033 by Rosa Mack, on Flickr

As you can see the metal wraps around the shoe

IMG_0034 by Rosa Mack, on Flickr


Rosa

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and never to be forgotten, Shiloh and Shoshi
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Thanks for the pictures, Rosa. I'm absolutely sure Eli knows you think of everything in his best interest. hug The shoes are very innovative.


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