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Re: Not good news [Re: Shilohsmom] #346901
02/09/18 10:23 PM
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Ahe is on 25 mg Deramax(spelling?) I think thats the lowest dose to start with. I remembered later today from a conversation with the vet that her bathroom issues may not improve so she may still take awhile to poop. I don't know why I expected it to improve. She just seems to do so much better overall. They did not schedule a blood test.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346903
02/10/18 06:12 AM
02/10/18 06:12 AM
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Many believe that deramaxx is a bit safer than some of the other NSAIDs,but initial testing still should be done, as well as testing after the med has been started, and then periodic testing. I would be upset if your vet did not discuss this with you. I do believe that dog deaths from nsaids have decreased since vets are more aware of dosages and testing overall, I think higher dosages were initially used which caused more problems.
https://www.vetinfo.com/deramaxx-side-effects.html
http://srdogs.com/rimadyl-and-other-nsaids/

Usually when things get that severe, in terms of joint pain and maybe ongoing gut issues, you have to attack it from many different angles.

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Re: Not good news [Re: MaxaLisa] #346904
02/10/18 11:56 AM
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We have discussed side effects, and my impression from the conversation is if there were issues with the drug, this is usually because there other issues going on when the drug was taken. There will be side effects, as would any person taking a drug, and the risk vs benefit would be weighed. Abbey had been pretty healthy, except for the occasional illness the last few years, but been pretty healthy overall. I can only speculate why he chose not to run a blood test, but I am not going to smile she does have her checkup in a few months and I already plan to have blood work done to make sure she is still doing good. I think they will do one anyway because of her age and the medicine she is on.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346905
02/10/18 02:59 PM
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Any drug has side effects but vets *should* blood test before prescribing an nsaid and then discuss a schedule for testing. These drugs can be used safely, but i've seen a healthy dog die in three days from rimadyl (Labs seem more susceptible). For those of us who treat holistically, we also need to know how to best support our dogs - dogs on these drugs should be on liver support, thought I don't have a favorite product right now since they changed it

Jazz internal medicine vet prefers previcox for safety profile, but since he gets the dogs that have issues, he tries not to use them.

It is true that these drugs greatly improve quality of life for many dogs, but vets should be proactive in monitoring, particularly in dogs having digestive issues already because of their action on the gut, liver, and kidneys. Many dogs can be on them a long time before there are issues, and some dogs never have issues.

Let us know how the blood results turn out when she has her checkup.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346906
02/10/18 07:08 PM
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I have no suggestions, but understand the roller coaster ups and downs. Worry is so tiring.

I hope for you mostly good days during these times.

hugging


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