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Not good news #346644
01/14/18 12:47 PM
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About a month ago, I noticed Abbey taking awhile to poop. Normally, she poops and goes on, but she started taking up to two minutes to poop. We kept an eye on her, thinking she probably got a little constipated from maybe foods being dropped to the floor and she snatched it up before we got to clean up after meals. Poop texture was normal, sometimes runny. So, pooping was the first sign, and what prompted me to take her to the vet was her legs shaking as she did her business, though it was clear she was not constipated. I was concerned that there might be something going on that could not be attributed to her age....

Well, the vet listened, took her for a walk, and checked her out all over. Not constipation, not sick, but he said she could be having hip pain. The way she was walking, and the sway of her hips and her struggling to poop are early signs of hip displasia. teary We talked about options and for now, start her on pain medication to block the pain signals so she might do better, and up her supplements with additional glucosamine.

We have already started her on supplements last year and are incorporating two daily walks instead of one, or substitute with good play in the house if the weather is unsuitable, or if we can't take our young kids with us. I am so sad this is happening! We are going to try to make her comfortable. I have a natural obstacle course outside that I used to have her run through, but I am eliminating that as it takes stairs and jumping, which are not good for dogs with hip displasia.

We were looking for another GSD, a very young dog, to get him/her started on her training and have Abbey to look up to. Considering things did not go well with the last prospective young dog and her current condition, we are going hold off on the search and focus on Abbey. Though we are now in the early stages, I worry about her being comfortable and the stress this may cause us.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346646
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X-Rays of her hips?

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My old girl Rica had HD, diagnosed at 7 years old. We did a low dose of pred, glucosamine and other supplements. She did well until almost 13, even though the ortho vet said she would be crippled by 8.
The right set of supplements will probably be a big benefit to keep her comfortable and happy. Some mild hills in her walks will help to keep the muscles strong.
If possible, chiro and/or acupuncture could help as well.


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Re: Not good news [Re: Codmaster] #346653
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No x-Ray. I asked if it was needed, ready and willing to pay for an X-Ray to confirm and he said no, confident in what he has seen from her and what I have described. I trust him. They have GSDs in their family.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346659
01/15/18 10:18 PM
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Here is a photo from our outing today. It was a little warmer and we got winter weather moving in, so I kicked everybody outside to soak up the sunlight and get Abbey exercised.


Doesn't she look so young!


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346660
01/15/18 10:52 PM
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Yes, she does. Caleb has a lot more gray in his face and he is only 8!


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Re: Not good news [Re: Woodreb] #346661
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You'll want a combination of supplements to help with the health of the joints and to keep inflammation down. If you're going to use arthritis drugs, be sure you are monitoring bloodwork and giving liver support.

I definitely agree with a chiro and acupuncture consult. My experience is that those are huge benefits, particularly with the GSD backs.

Make sure a tick disease has been ruled out, and for some of the tremoring, sometimes making sure the anal glands aren't stuck full is also helpful.


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Re: Not good news [Re: MaxaLisa] #346666
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The glands are good and I looked into the tick disease. I will keep the symptoms in mind, for now she seems far too active and alert to be showing sickness. She eats well and has always been lean. For now, age and hip displasia best fit what is happening with her. I will check about her blood work when she has her annual, the vet may plan to do that anyway. She is on Deremax (spelling?). We discussed side effects and the vet is confident this is best fit for now. He has recommended consistent exercise, heat packs, and massages.

I checked with my friend who works in vet emergency care. She knows a couple of people that do chiro and acupuncture and will get me prices. Thanks for the suggestions! Your input is appreciated!


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346667
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Heres a photo from yesterday. We had a lot of fun, and Abbey loved playing in the snow, but after awhile, we could tell she was starting to have a hard time and was randomly limping. We sent her inside to give her the chance to rest and be in a warm place. What doea she do? She jumpes onto the couch (not allowed) and got her paws on the window and flipping out about not playing with us. That dog! She was NOT ready to go inside while we are outside.




Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346672
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She looks wonderful. wub


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Re: Not good news [Re: Shilohsmom] #346678
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She was really happy today! Another outing in the snow with the kids this morning and this evening. But my heart was breaking this evening. We ran out of her trial pain blocker med and her first supply ia late coming in. She has been sleeping, and got up to come to me. She was limping initially. I after a minute, she did walk normal but the difference was there. I let her out to potty, she was normal with the occasional limp, and when she came back in, I offered her my arm for her to jump up on, like she normally does to put her front paws on my arm and stand on her hind legs. She stumbled, and then wouldn't try again. That never ever happened. She always take every opportunity to jump up when permission is given. I really hope this isn't our last winter with her being able to come out and play with her family.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
Re: Not good news [Re: DarkEyes] #346697
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I'm glad to hear you had a good day with Abbey. Based on her condition I can see where she wouldn't want to jump up on you so try not to worry about that. I know it's hard seeing our pups not being able to do things they use to enjoy. My suggestion is to find new things they find happiness in doing. Staying on top of the pain is critical, is there an alternative pain med she can take until the others come in?


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I finally told my husband Saturday that if the medicine doesn-t come in, I am calling my vrt and will pay them for what they can give me. Fortunately, it came in that day just before I was going to call them.

The snow days probably took a lot out of her. Having to maintain balance and the cold air must've impacted her. She is still mischevious and will still play. I think what I should consider doing is instead of a lot of physical activity, I should invest in mentally stimulating toys. She is not treats driven, so getting treats as a reward for figuring out things won't work. She just wants attention from us. Hide and seek with toys seem to help.


Abbey: 10 years old German Shepherd
Suki: 10 years old Calico kitty
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I’m so glad the meds got to you! I’m sending warm wishes for positive results! thumbup hugging


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I'm glad to hear her meds came in smile I play doggie board games with Eli which is low impact and yet keeps his mind going. I know you said she wasn't too thrilled with treats but there might be something you could use that would get her interest.

If she's laying down you could sit down beside her and play catch or maybe a little tug game. Grab a blankie and play a game of peek a boo!! When she's feeling good go back over her training, practice sit, stay, things that don't require her to get up and down much. I could go on and on but you get what I'm saying, there's so much we can do to keep them stimulated.

Please keep us posted as time allows.


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