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I just have to share this picture of a beautiful black GSD and her 5 day old pups.



And the sure, Kahn


Story to follow soon.


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What a beautiful family! Congrats congrats How many pups did she have?


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Hmmmmm. Is something up?

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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
Hmmmmm. Is something up?


LOL Middle.


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Originally Posted By: Shilohsmom
What a beautiful family! Congrats congrats How many pups did she have?


I believe she had 10. I could be wrong. I don't even know exactly how many males and females. But I do know there are two sable girlies grin

This litter is in Washington state, born on 9/8/17 and I am keeping an eye on them. I know the breeder, and all I know is that she produces a lot of stable pups.


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Well she is beautiful and such a lovely family


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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
Hmmmmm. Is something up?


Inquiring minds would like to know! impatient


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Eye candy grin


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Do I sense an alternative to an enhanced retirement account?

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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
Do I sense an alternative to an enhanced retirement account?


Perhaps wink

Maybe I should rethink my thoughts!


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Isn't she cute?


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Looks like a great activity devise in its early development stage... Puppies change so fast!

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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
Looks like a great activity devise in its early development stage... Puppies change so fast!


Indeed they do! Can't wait to see what they look like in a week smile


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Her name will be Breezy and she will be here in about 3 weeks. This is her 5 week photo!

I have been so torn about getting her because we are expecting another super harsh winter. That will make potty training and Everything about having a puppy pretty tough. Along with being hopeful for a career change which isn't going well yet. But I know if I go back on the road in the spring, having a baby to raise won't work either.So winter it is!

However, I was just informed last night that transportation is secured. My friends in Washington are so awesome. A certain friend is a truck driver (who happens to love GSD's) and goes right by my town twice a week! He has offered his services in getting this baby to me safely.

Any tips and tricks to bringing up baby in deep snow is most welcome smile
Any tips and tricks in bringing up baby at any time is most welcome smile


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Forgot to say...

It has been about 18 years since I have had a puppy! My last pup was back in 1998, when someone gave me a 6 week old puppy that I named Lizzy. She was with me for 10 years. After I let her go due to severe HD, I found Z and he is 10 now. I 'think' I miss having 2, so here comes little Breezy! grin


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congrats She is beautiful!!!!! I'm so happy for you and I too, am raising a pup for the first time in 11 years. It's a blast!!!


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Congratulations. fetch What a cutie!

Tips for puppies in winter -- sleep in sweats. have snow boots at hand. Be sure to have a key handy in case you accidentally lock yourself out as you exit in haste.

MOST of my pups have been house trained easily. Best was when the older dog peed outside 3 or 4 times until the puppy got the idea. The last one -- it took a year... a year... a year! This was my fifth puppy... 5. 5th. 1 year.


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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
Congratulations. fetch What a cutie!

Tips for puppies in winter -- sleep in sweats. have snow boots at hand. Be sure to have a key handy in case you accidentally lock yourself out as you exit in haste.

MOST of my pups have been house trained easily. Best was when the older dog peed outside 3 or 4 times until the puppy got the idea. The last one -- it took a year... a year... a year! This was my fifth puppy... 5. 5th. 1 year.



I had one dog like that - he was a pit mix. Stubborn and full of himself.
I am praying that Breezy is easy! Being that I have Z, he can go out and she can follow, sniff him out and Gooo! (Yeah I am dreaming LOL)

The question is, why do I feel like I am still on the fence about getting her?!!? Odd feeling for sure.


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Originally Posted By: Shilohsmom
congrats She is beautiful!!!!! I'm so happy for you and I too, am raising a pup for the first time in 11 years. It's a blast!!!


Thank you smile

You were smart to get your pup before winter hit!!
I need to go find pics smile

It has been so long I don't know if I should go buy a harness and puppy stuff now, or wait for her personality to shine after she is here. I don't have a clue what to feed her when she arrives. 18 years ago, I knew nothing about nothing and fed Purina probably blush


I am excited to get her here!

Oh gosh, what Am I getting myself into! ROFL

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I'd feed what you feed Z. I'd plan on some wardrobe modifications that are not human approved; maybe some landscaping help or furniture design? Favorite shoes should be placed up high for about a year.

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Congrats on the new chapter in your life. thumbup The only advice I have to add is with winter coming up keep all gloves and mittens on a high shelf. wink Can't wait to see more pics when you bring Breezy home.


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I have some bad news to share...

I won't be bringing this puppy home after all. She is okay, but my household is not.

It has come to my attention that there are still some serious issues to be worked out between my dad and I. This comes after I took Z for a walk and didn't come home when dad 'thought' I should be back so he went driving around looking for us because he assumed Z must have gotten in a fight with another dog. Dad is always so damn negative, and feels justified in driving around looking for me, when in fact the only dog Z had Ever fought with was Nadia. Bringing a puppy here would simply cause more things for his negativity to dream up. I need to set more boundaries with dad. I am not bringing a puppy here for us to fight over, and I know he would have His way of raising a puppy, which is old school and we would Definitely clash.

I plan on letting the breeder know today. frown


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I'm sorry to hear this. It sounds like your Dad is still being his difficult self. I wish you could carve out some space in the house that is just yours. I think care-taking is likely the toughest job around.

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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
I'm sorry to hear this. It sounds like your Dad is still being his difficult self. I wish you could carve out some space in the house that is just yours. I think care-taking is likely the toughest job around.


Thank you Middle. Yes dad is still being his difficult self, and will never change. I need to remember that. The space carved out just for me, is my bedroom.

I quit doing my crafts because he is always looking over my shoulder saying 'now what are you painting' etc. I quit doing anything I enjoy because he cannot step back and leave me alone. I may as well sell all of that stuff, but keep hoping beyond hope that he will wake up and realize just how miserable he makes me. A girl can hope, I guess, but I know better. *sigh*


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Bev, he sounds lonely. That doesn't help you much. This situation you are in makes me sad. Sadder than you not getting a puppy.

I guess when you take Z out, you could call in every 1/2 hour or so. I'd guess he probably hates the change in roles and is looking desperately for some control, some power. (I reflect on a friend's father who, when she would come to visit, would insist on things that would slow the plan down - doing this, doing that, waiting - no kidding - for lotion to dry before he put on his socks to get ready to go out.)

I wonder if maybe you could rent a room or a garage from someone where you could go to do your "stuff" whatever that is (craft, painting, staring into space). Just an escape, especially with winter coming home and your work days shortening. On the other hand and maybe a possibility for you, Bi-Mart here is taking applications for seasonal staff. I'm just thinking - "get out of the house" for a bit. I guess it's that or just respond by telling him what you are doing - accept a running commentary as part of it. You could tell him you were painting a geographer (I was trying to spell long-necked-spotted-animal and that is what Mr. Gates came up with for me) and proceed to paint a cow (I know how to spell "cow"!) I'm just thinking about how you might turn this around a bit to almost have fun with it.

Anyway - just damn! on the situation.



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Middle- interestingly enough, dad just bought another shed that now houses my belongings that we have no room for in the house. His plan is that he is going to sell it in a year to get a good chunk of his money back, but in reality, it is housing projects and my stuff that I refuse to get rid of. So my plan is that once I can make enough space in it, it will be either my she-shed, or it will become a guest room/guest house, because we do not have anywhere for company to stay. My kids won't come visit due to lack of a place to sleep (other than a hotel that they can't afford)

In my mind, I know he is just lonely and needs to be needed. I did apply at BiMart and so now when I say I am going there to grab say shampoo, he just HAS to tell me 'if you see that guy (the manager) it wouldn't hurt to talk to him' or if I pick up the dog crate(folded up) to move it from one place or the other he says' hang on a sec and I will help you' ...just little stuff that adds up to grate on every nerve I own. I tell him repeatedly I know how to and am completely capable of conducting my business without his interference, and that IF I need help I will ask for it, but he never refrains from adding his 2 cents. My car recently broke down at work, and when I couldn't solve the issue on my own, I called him for help so he knows I will ask when help is needed.

When I moved him into this house I was selling extra recliners online, and went to his old house to meet someone buying them. We chatted a little bit, and sure enough, dad had to do a driveby. If I stop along the walk with Z to chat with someone, he will do a driveby and I find it absolutely Humiliating that he does that. I feel like I am suffocating under his watch! I can't breathe when he is always hovering.

I hate this.

Still haven't said much to him. When his feelings get hurt he won't talk for days till he gets over it but I am the 'talk it out and move on' type. This time I was so furious that I decided to give him a dose of his own medicine. I want him to apologize for hovering and being intrusive, but he doesn't see he did anything wrong so will never attempt an apology. I just want a little bit of myself back.

PS Like I told dad, he could of simply called and asked if everything was ok instead of doing his driveby crap and it would have avoided all this nonsense.

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I am so sorry to read all this. Tell ya what? You can share in my puppy experience. I know its not the same but maybe will help a little.

So sad about your living situation. I'd say don't get rid of anything now. Things change and there will be a day when you will enjoy all that stuff again.

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Originally Posted By: Shilohsmom
I am so sorry to read all this. Tell ya what? You can share in my puppy experience. I know its not the same but maybe will help a little.

So sad about your living situation. I'd say don't get rid of anything now. Things change and there will be a day when you will enjoy all that stuff again.

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I would love for you to share your puppy! He is adorable and oh so fluffy!

I don't plan on getting rid of anything, so dad is in for a surprise in a year when he wants to sell said shed LOL

So yesterday one of my granddaughters was having a rough day and posted something on Facebook. I replied and told her 'Don't let this define you. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and point your mind in a positive direction'. It was then that I realized this was great advice for me to follow too! Made the world of difference in dealing with dad, for sure. Doesn't change my decision on the pup, but made living with dad more bearable.

BUT...(as I sit here chuckling and shaking my head)
This morning he came knocking on my bedroom door at 4am. He said he woke up and heard the garage door closing. He wears hearing aids and does not wear them to bed so he could not have possibly heard the garage door. I say in my sleepy yet ever so intelligent voice 'Huh?' He repeats, then goes to peek into the garage. I get up to go check it out and he says 'I could have been dreaming' to which I have to say 'Ya think?'

I check it out and of course everything is just fine.
Dad goes back to bed and I was wide awake.
7:30am and he is still in bed, snoozing away.
Guess I will have to sneak in a nap later...


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Well, hmmm. How about getting him a dog of his own? THAT would give him something to worry about, something to do... Or would that fall on you? Hey, OK I didn't say it was a brilliant idea... And go take your nap.

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ROFL Middle! You crack me up!

Dad has wanted to adopt every little dog he has seen forever and I keep saying NO! Because I don't do little dogs, I do big dogs, and because little dogs of unknown origin could have unwanted baggage that would create issues around Z. Plus every dog dad wanted to adopt already had their own loving homes...for real.

Soooo...
I am back on the fence. I told him a little while ago that I cancelled the pup. I mean seriously, he needed some drawer pulls and found them for .59/ea. He needed 8 and said that it was 'too much money'...That was $4.72 for 8 drawer pulls. I told him if that was too much money, $250 (his half of the pup) was definitely too much money ..

Now you and I and everyone in the GSD world know that is an awesome price. $500 for a pup?! I know that I am getting that price because the gal is an old friend of mine. And if I go for it, she has a free ride from her birth home to my home smile Dad will still pay his half.

So I need to know:
What would you all do?
Jump in with both feet?
Or wait?

(PS. Got a letter from BiMart and I did not get the job, but the fanciest hotel in town called and sort of offered me a job waitressing, which I don't want, but I am interviewing tomorrow cause it counts on my job search for unemployment. ) I really have my eyes on Ace Hardware and feel like I would be a better fit there. They have some awesome benefits there too!

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Do you want the pup? (in this situation) What can you do to mitigate it? Can you set boundaries? (sounds like this one's an issue). If your dad wants the pup, does he want her badly enough to agree to your way? Will he sign a contract stating that? (may as well get the bellyaching over with now - OK that's wishful thinking but get some of it out anyway). I'd lay down some real rules and include something like "no bitching about the price." Do you have a trainer you like there that you can go with the pup and drag him along?

So - this is a hard one. I could not live with my folks but my folks are not your folks. (That's not to say your Dad doesn't sound a bit over-bearing and I am sure seems a total PIA some times -- and that's not to say I could live with anyone) But your tolerance is far greater than mine...

What would I do? I'd lay down the law and present him with a contract. I'd also address other issues - as in "What can I do to reassure you I'm alright? Being checked on makes me feel discounted/frustrated etc. and we need to figure out another way"

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Bev, I am sorry that you are seriously contemplating not getting the puppy. I have read the last two pages of your posts. I want to add some thing that may or may not help. Some Parents have a hard time not being parents, no matter how old both of you are they at times still see you as a much younger person that they need to help or protect. I have my mom who would move heaven and earth to help or protect me and I have a dad who doesn't even know our house burned down 5 years ago. It is much nicer to have a parent that loves you.

You might want to use part of that approach when setting some boundaries. "Dad I know that at times you still think of me as your little girl, but I am a strong grown woman that you helped raise me to be. You should be proud and happy that I am this person. I love you but I am not a little girl any more, I will always be your daughter." Or something like that.

Good parents just have a hard time not trying to help and protect their kids, bad parents could give a crap less.

I am sure it is difficult for your dad, he still wants to be the dad who helps and protects his daughter, he wants to be the man and in charge (generation thing). Are there any senior resources available in your area. We have a Senior Center in this area, that has all types of activities for seniors. Maybe he could find a hobby, some thing to do.


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Excellent advice Middle.

I think the biggest and hardest thing about this is setting boundaries. Like I told him during this last round, a phone call is so less intrusive and acceptable over the drive by checking up on me.

So last night I was chatting online with the people who I am counting on for transporting her, and it is starting to sound like her ride might be falling apart. As much as I want her, it is starting to feel like it is just not meant to be.

With that being said, I also started looking at how this would go with starting a new job, IF I can even get hired in town. I also tried to nail dad down on whether he wanted a pup in the house this winter or not and he has left it up to me.

In the long run, I am thinking it would be better to wait and focus on getting work in town and getting settled in a job before I get crazy about a puppy and find myself having to leave it with him while I am at work. I can wait until I am retired and let Z live out his senior years in peace. I think the pup would be more exciting for me later down the road.

I think this is more about being sensible now than about giving in to my puppy fever smile


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Bev,
Consider - I'd bet most of us have some trepidation about getting a pup - as in 1000 reasons for "no, not now." I wasn't in the market at all when the youngest came along. This was the breeder's idea. I'm glad, now, that I have her.
But hey, I live alone. And have for most of my adult life.

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Middle, I think that is part of the problem. I have lived alone for so long and never had interference as I do now through dad so I only had myself to take into consideration.

If dad were completely healthy and I had some hope of no interference from him, I would go for it. And last night that was the last thing I said to him. Upon waking this morning though, it came to me that I very well may face a lot of hardships this year. With mom in a care facility, with dad not being in top shape and of course with Zisso, and questionable finances (unemployment), no sure thing for work at the moment, wanting out of flagging etc. Stability would be better to bring a pup in to.

Z seems to enjoy being the center of attention. I am going to spoil him rotten in his senior years and let him enjoy being the only pet. Save up my $$ and pay for my pup myself so no one (ie: Dad) can have any say in how I raise her.


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