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Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345166
09/11/17 04:28 PM
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I'm glad that you're going to get your day in court. With all you (and other neighbors) have gone through with this miserable dog management, surely you will get justice.

I don't want to derail your thread, but your experience really makes me value our considerate neighbors.

Good luck on Oct 6.

MJ

Re: Surveilance question [Re: Mary Jane] #345167
09/11/17 09:39 PM
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The problem is always that these folks cost us a lot of time and sometimes expense. You don't get the time back :-(

Sure do hope reason prevails!


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Re: Surveilance question [Re: MaxaLisa] #345171
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Thanks for the good wishes. We'll see how this goes (it's 3 weeks out)

The fool could have just admitted it instead of forcing me to court. It's blatantly obvious his dogs are not confined to his property and harass mine. me, other people. I'm hoping his lack of judgement causes his fine to escalate. smile

Ironically, Wyoming was the easiest place to deal with getting dogs confined. That was likely due to serious incidents that occurred in the boom that happened a few years before I got there. Call about a loose dog giving you problems, the people were responsive, the dogs were confined. Wham! just like that. Here, it's far from that simple.

Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345173
09/12/17 07:59 PM
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Different part of the country, different mentality. Sorry this is consuming so much of your time, I am sure you could think of better things to do.

Wishing you luck.


Val da Tiger

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Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
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Re: Surveilance question [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345514
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Update time on the drama out west...

Our day in Court - today. Deputy was in a suit (or sports coat) & I didn't recognize him out of uniform. I was somewhat concerned the neighbor had somehow retained a lawyer!!!

Anyway, I presented my case - 4 pages of dates that the incidents occurred. Including not the most extreme but bad enough language. I also handed over many photographs and indicated that I had more if the court wished them. Neighbor tried to argue that he had no idea the dogs were a problem -- The judge suggested that his cursing me indicated that he did recognize the dogs were a problem. She also admonished him that anyone should be able to walk down that road and I certainly had a right to walk on my property. He was given a rather hefty fine and told that it would be suspended until which time his dogs were again off his property when it would be reinstated. The other party was also heard about his dog being loose. That party did not appear and was given a lesser fine.

I bought ice cream to celebrate. (and other junk too but hey)

Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345515
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congrats


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Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345527
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party

Sometimes things turn out right.

I hope things are better from here on out.


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Re: Surveilance question [Re: PositiveDog] #345528
10/07/17 05:52 PM
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Let's hope that the fear of a large fine hanging over his head makes him keep his dogs under control.

Celebrate the victory.


Val da Tiger

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Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: Surveilance question [Re: PositiveDog] #345531
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
party

Sometimes things turn out right.

I hope things are better from here on out.


me, too

Re: Surveilance question [Re: Mary Jane] #345532
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Great job middle, kudos for your persistence here, i'm glad the day in court went well!


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Re: Surveilance question [Re: MaxaLisa] #345542
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Thanks for all the support but....

Well, that didn't last! approximately 50 hours of no dogs loose. 6:10 PM today that was gone. Dog charged the fence barking. Came across the road, up to my fence running, barking etc. Sigh. Call in. Citation will be done Thursday early. (Deputy on night duty tonight & busy - then off.) I'm hoping that the fine will be reinstated without me having to go to court.

And I didn't have my camera. As I left the house I had thought how nice it was not to have to take it with me..............

Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345558
10/11/17 12:24 AM
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I was afraid that he wasn't going to take it seriously. I am sure his male ego thought he got one over on you.


Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: Surveilance question [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345559
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Yeah, well, again last night which the dogs were called back accompanied with cursing them and cursing me. (judge will be so happy to hear) Then this morning three dogs charge the fence. Photographed last night and this morning. Getting ready to walk again...

I suspect that once he blew it, he knew it was over in that the fine would be reimposed. I wonder if he has considered that the judge may increase the fine for subsequent violations?

I really dislike this. I mean California is burning, some fool killed a large number of people, there are storms in the SE and I have to worry about the joker across the street...

Ironically, we do not have room in our jail (new one is being built having gotten an overwhelming approval of a bond measure) for him or I'm sure he would be there for lack of paying fines already.

Re: Surveilance question [Re: middleofnowhere] #345565
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Originally Posted By: middleofnowhere
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I really dislike this. I mean California is burning, some fool killed a large number of people, there are storms in the SE and I have to worry about the joker across the street...



I know just what you mean about trying to keep things in proportion-but this is a legitimate quality of life issue.

Keep us posted,
MJ

Re: Surveilance question [Re: Mary Jane] #345584
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Sheriff's deputies (2!) came out this morning, took the report and attempted to serve the citation. Had a discussion regarding what the fine was in opposition to just paying the citation -- much more if you contest it. Especially if you don't have any basis for contesting it. So watch that. The guy escalated the threats yesterday morning so I am going to file a restraining order on him. That means he cannot come within 150 feet of me. If I walk the road, he needs to move to the back of his property. He cannot talk to me (and that includes he cannot scream profanities at me.) So I am anxious to get that in place. If I weren't headed down the hill to practice in the first snow of the season, I would have done it by now.

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