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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: MaxaLisa] #345446
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Thanks everyone! Lisa, I think it is a manufacture problem too. The nerve racking thing is finding another food and hoping it works. The one I am thinking about is holistic select lamb and rice and it has a lot of pre and probiotics in it. It states that it is for digestive health.
If anyone is familiar with this food I would like to hear your input. Or if anyone has something that works well I would like to know,
thanks.

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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345447
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I know little about the current dog foods since I try to stay away from processed food - went with a smaller dog for one reason so it would be easier to feed homeprepared. I do feed some processed food, but it's typically freeze-dried, dehyrated, or frozen, which is usually too expensive for a larger dog, and sometimes not satisfying enough.

A hint if you are asking about a certain food is to provide a link to the full ingredients which makes it easier for others to maybe look and provide input.


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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: middleofnowhere] #345450
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Hi Middle, yeah that is obvious, but most important it is different!!! Since this food is not consistent, I am getting another brand. Thanks again for replying.

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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: MaxaLisa] #345451
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Hi Lisa, I agree if my dog was small I would be doing what you are doing. Here is the ingredient's to the other dog food, I know it might look grainy, but I am trying to stick with something similar since I have to switch faster.

Ingredients:
Lamb Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground White Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Oatmeal, Dried Beet Pulp, Flaxseed, Dried Egg Product, Carrots, Pumpkin, Cranberries, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Potassium Chloride, Apples, Peas, Organic Quinoa, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid], Minerals [Zinc Polysaccharide Complex, Iron Polysaccharide Complex, Copper Polysaccharide Complex, Manganese Polysaccharide Complex, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Carbonate, Potassium Iodide], Papaya, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Blueberries, Pomegranate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Inulin, Mixed Tocopherols added to preserve freshness, Yucca Schidigera Extract, DL-Methionine, Ground Cinnamon, Ground Fennel, Ground Peppermint, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus casei Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus licheniformis Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus niger Fermentation Product, Lecithin, Choline Chloride, Rosemary Extract, Green Tea Extract.
This is a naturally preserved product.
Oh and I know a lot of people don't like beet pulp for fiber, but it works for my dog.

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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345457
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Lisa, now the dog has mucus and very loose stools. I don't understand this morning at 6am the stool was firm and brown at 4pm it is super loose with mucus please help!!

Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345459
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Are you still feeding the Beef and Rice or are you feeding Kibble. I am having a bit of a hard time trying to follow this problem your dog is having? Also didn't you post recently that your dog went to the Vet??


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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345460
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It started about 2 1/2 weeks ago with diarrhea, the vet gave me metro for 3-5days. here's what happened, I started dr Gary's august 8th slowly transitioning him. everything went well for a month on the food, so then I bought another bag and it was a different color and different size, I feed it anyway, but my gut said not to, then the first day of feeding it his stool was soft so I continued and it went firm again, but 2 weeks after feeding that bag it went to diarrhea. then the vet put him on metro, but it did not firm his stools. I gave him beef and rice for 2 days and he seemed better, I introduce the food (but new bag) and 2 days he was fine however today diarrhea again. I am calling the vet tomorrow, but in the meantime I am back to feeding bland diet. I am stressing out badly, because his stomach is so messed up that I can't try new food yet, unless maybe new food may help I don't know. He is hungry after he eats bland diet and I feel bad b/c he likes his kibble. I am not sure if I am feeding enough.

Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345461
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OK, as a person who has IBSD it takes a while for the gut to settle down after it has had problems. I had a female GSD who at one time had digestive issues, I fed Beef and Rice for over a month, not ideal but I wanted to make sure what ever caused her problems had cleared her system and then I slowly introduced a new kibble to her by adding a small about to her beef and rice, changing the amount every 3 days or so until she was on all kibble.

You need to do a comparison of the Foods you have fed to see if there is any ingredient that is common in all of the foods.

Another one of my females was always a picky eater, she would eat a food for a while and then stop eating. So I did the beef and rice and all was good. So with my comparisons of her foods I had an idea that she had a chicken intolerance. So I tested her with a 1 inch chunk of roasted chicken breast and Bang she had explosive diarrhea. It was difficult finding a food that didn't have chicken some where in the ingredients but I did and no more picky eater.

Having a dog that has developed digestive issues isn't fun. Have the Vet run a Fecal sample and see if there are any bugs showing in the system.

If not you need to start back with the beef and rice, I would also get a good Probiotic for your dog.

As far as amount, how much does you dog weigh and how much are you feeding?


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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345465
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Thanks you very much, he is about 85lbs and I feed about 1lb of ground meat along with 1 cup of rice. What kind of probiotic should I buy (name brand)?

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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345467
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You mixture is way to meat heavy. 1 cup of cooked and drained ground beef and about 3 cups of over cooked rice mixed together. I would probably start at 1 1/4 two times a day. Cheyenne was a big female and at her younger weight weighed just about what your male is. Any thing more than 4 cups a day she would get chunky.

I haven't purchased probiotics for a while and would have to do a search.


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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345468
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Thank you for your reply, I will do that. I am glad I ask so now I will mix what you said.

Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345469
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Again thank you very much, wow my mixture was way off. So as I mentioned in the last post I am going to do what you said. I waned to know, after a few days of this beef and rice mix and I see an improvement, can I do the same ratio, with pasta?
example: 1 cup cook beef drained and 3 cups pasta?? Just curious.

Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345470
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I have never done pasta but I have done Oatmeal. You just have to give it a try and see what happens.


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Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #345471
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okay thank you!!

Re: color vary in dog kibble [Re: jlstudent1970] #345477
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I got a new thing now, he is biting his paws like crazy, which he never really did before. I know it is a allergy, and I am wondering if it is beef? Only b/c I been feeding beef and rice with this bland diet, however I usually rotate proteins with him. I have not rotated lately b/c of trying to get his stomach to settle. But you think I should give him chicken and rice and rotate it anyway?

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