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So we finally found what we hope/expect is a good match after losing our 8yo in April 2016 to DM.

Have a few questions for anyone who has done rescuing an adult GSD. Lola is a 3yo we are getting from her current owner (due to her pregnancy and evidently a few complications, and fear for her 2 cats although rescue didn't see any cat aggression). She has had her only about 5 months and is getting pretty close to delivery and more worried.

we met Lola (me, wife and 40 yo son) a week or so ago and we all three liked her. not shy as she cme right over to say hi to each of us, liked petting and even a belly rub, walked nice on a leash in a short walk for all of us, was not shy at all even away from the owner but did notice everyone and dogs around us as we met in a local park with a lot of both around. she has had a bit of training as she knew sit and stay pretty good and walked very nice on leash.

I am planning to train her in AKC Obedience and Rally and expect her to do well from what we could see in the short meeting.

Supposed to be good in house but not so much if left alone (hope we can address that) and good in a crate and also a kennel run.

Big questions - how hard/easy is it to get a dog used to a new home/owner/environment?

Feed her in house (fed last dog usually in his run). Maybe hand feed some? She does take treats, even little ones, very very nicely now.

Any suggestions? I have read/heard to keep them right with you for a few days - i.e. on a leash with you in house. And also keep her at home and with owner mostly for a couple weeks before we go anywhere, i.e. training class, etc.

What food would anyone recommend - she is currently on Kirkland Beef (cost is really not a consideration but might have to current owner I believe).

Thanks much for any advice/suggestions.

This is our first rescue we have done as all of other GSDs we have had (9) have been gotten as puppies. So this rescue/adult dog is real new.

And we had such a well known (both me and dog)) with our last guy I got to admit it seems a bit intimidating to get an adult dog and develop a good routine. Even such a mundane thing like where to feed her and where should she sleep at night. Current owner says she sleeps loose in the house now.

Re: New Rescue tomorrow! [Re: Codmaster] #344953
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Keeping her close to you will help with bonding and her adjusting to the new household.
If it we me, I'd feed her in the house, but then that's where I've always fed my crew.

No suggestions on food, except see what she does best on. We feed raw, but not everyone is comfortable with that option.


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Re: New Rescue tomorrow! [Re: Woodreb] #344956
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I'm glad Lola found you. I'm aghast that she has moved around so much. On the other hand, I got one (surprised me in my back yard one morning with punctured trachea and jugular) who had been surrendered, placed, moved to another home (from which he escaped & became injured) in fairly short order.

What I see you needing to do is convince Lola that "this is it" She's going no where but here. My guy absolutely loved obedience work and obedience class. (He also loved the vet - really loved the vet. They saved his life and I think he knew it.) Routine was important to him in that he liked short walks twice a day and a long one once a week. So I'd say, establish a fairly workable routine for short training times, even very short walks etc.

My guy was an escape artist and did not like being left alone in the house. He would go through screens and, I heard, windows. (which was one reason the first family surrendered him.) He did fine on a trolley alone outside. (These were my before dog crate days). He also, at the SLC vet where I took him because mine didn't have the equipment to deal with him if something went amiss with his neck, not only escaped his kennel but went around and released everyone else.

Overall, I would say be as predictable as you can be. Establish what happens when the family eats, etc. If she likes sleeping loose, let her sleep loose. If she likes to sleep in her crate more, then have her sleep in the crate. I'd expect the "test" will come as 5 mos approaches (Lola thinking "Do I get the boot now?")

Check Whole Dog Journal's website for info on food. BUT I find my dogs do not do well on the "best" kibble. I feed Dr.Gary's Best Breed Working Dog Diet.

I feed my dogs inside - and I have one that really wants company at dinner. Water bowls can be messy but neater feeder works well. With some dogs (except for these two!) chum bowls work, too. Buddy bowl but it's plastic and a challenge to take apart to clean.

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You have my heart-felt congratulations for finding and adopting Lola. congrats Dogs seem to enjoy a big part of your life, so it's a very big deal for everybody.

I don't know enough to add much to what has already been said. I will add one thing: for a few weeks, don't bring all your friends and family over to meet her or take her everyplace you go. Let her learn who her own owners are, the people who won't let her down. Let her learn about her own home before she is introduced to the whole new world.

all the best and do please keep us posted.

MJ

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Congratulations to you, your family, and Lola! Much patience. For a while, emotionally, she may have her bags all packed at right by the door. wink She will adjust. For separation anxiety, try the protocols found in Patricia McConnell's book "I'll Be Home Soon." Best success to you and dear Lola! smile


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Congratulations on finding Lola. All good advice.


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Thanks all!

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got her home yesterday! Cried/whined/barked almost all the way home (2+hours) could have been worse - maybe more darn traffic!

Anyway, other than that and her doing a lot the same in her new crate last night she is adjusting pretty well; and has seemed to bond pretty well with me (wife is on a driving trip with her sister and not due back till Saturday).
Having a big debate whether to put her crate (she is sleeping in one till we know she is good in house loose - supposed to be at 3yo, but we will see) in my bedroom so she feels more comfortable in a new place OR leave it downstairs in family room where it usually is? Any suggestions/thoughts? i am hoping that we will be able to have her run of the house in not too long - she does seem pretty good about that now (but only 1.5 days so far).

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If it were me, I'd put the kennel in the bedroom for now.

She'll probably feel more secure and settle more if she is close to you. It's all part of the initial bonding routine. We do the same for a new pup. Even if she's about 3, treat her as you would a new puppy in acclimating to the household and people there.


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another vote for the crate in the bedroom.

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she really likes the crate - usually will head to it to lay in it when we come in from a walk.

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So two crates. One in the bedroom, one downstairs. Glad Lola is happy. She should be with you to boss around.

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Great that Lola likes the crate.

Way long ago (2005) when we brought rescued very shy Wolf on a 4h trip and he entered his house for the first time, he ran right to his crate. OK, my then teenaged step-daughter running to pet him might have suggested shelter, but he knew the crate was his (great foster training).

Keep telling us about Miss Lola, please.

MJ

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CongrAtulations - she is a lucky girl. I second the Patricia McConnel book, It was invaluable for my rescue Cara - highlights things you never think about and the key word is 'prevention' - it's a short read as well.

I'll be Home Soon: How to Prevent and Treat Separation Anxiety. Kindle Edition
by Patricia B. McConnell Ph.D. (Author)

One of the key things is routine, routine, routine - doesn't matter what your routine is but whatever it is stick too it. A dog who has had serves homes needs the security that routine provides. watch her closely and get a hook on what her stress zone is - what are the triggers? These are what need to be addressed first but be prepared for it to take some time.

One of the things the book points out is that the first few weeks are often the honeymoon period so be prepared for things to get worse before they get better. Patience and kindness is what's needed - celebrate and focus on the daily smell stuff - lots of praise and lots off love:-)

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Great advice from everyone.

My guy was 16 months when I got him from a family, and then 3 months later I adopted a rescue that was 16 months old with separation anxiety and Zero training so I had my hands full. The dogs were in an outdoor kennel when I was at work and had crates in the house that they could come and go to freely. Their crates were their safe place. I had covers made for them and the covered crates were like a den for them. They always went 'to bed' at 9pm, on their own, in their crates.

Anyway, consistency is important. Giving them time to settle and learn the new routine is a must, and helps them feel secure and safe.

Good luck and congrats to you and most of all to Lola!


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Sorry I didn't see your initial post but another round of applause for your new girl, Lola. cheers

We adopted Sean when he was between 1 - 1 1/2 yrs. old and he had terrible separation anxiety. The good news is he did eventually get over it which is why I second what anniej said about routine. I cannot stress that enough. We were very consistent with Sean and I really think it helped. Regarding the crate situation, I think 2 crates are an excellent idea. We only had one and kept it in the family room just like you mentioned. We were able to take Sean upstairs to our bedroom without a problem. As long as he was with us he felt secure.

The biggest problem we had was trying to get him used to the idea of going potty in our yard. Obviously he never had a yard in his former home or homes. We walked him 5-6 times a day on relatively short walks. We played with him in the yard and taught him it was a good place. Eventually he learned to do his business there. Regarding obedience training, you know Lola best and it's your decision. However, if I had it to do over again I would have waited longer with Sean. We took him a month after we adopted him and it was too soon for him. He did excellent with commands but had some difficulty with the other dogs in class. I wanted to socialize him but it worked better on our walks in the neighborhood than in class.

Best of luck, so happy for your family and you. Lola has found her forever home. thumbup


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Just a quick update about what a sweet dog our new rescue Lola is.

My wife Cindy has a Tuesday night ceramic class of 5/6 people. Lola has been so good with everyone she has met and most of the class are dog people (couple of GSD folks) so we introduced and let Lola meet the folks (asked them first and they all said they wanted to meet her).

So we did (on leash at first). You would have thought that Lola grew up with all of them! She was such a Peach! She had a very friendly tail wagging greeting for all, and even wanted some belly rubs! It was very nice to see and they all loved her. One woman said "I'm taking her home!". Needless to say = "NO".

We don't start any formal obedience class till 9/13 but have started a little bit of training around the house (i.e. Wait, and Sit and are starting Down) so far she seems to be doing great and is happy throughout. Her recall, on her 30' leash, is very fast at a run.

we have found that she has a LOT of interest in cats we see out walking - no aggression just intense interest. And strangely enough she has the same interest in the crows we see in the grass in our local park - maybe she has some duck dog blood in her!!!! Heh! Heh!

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Thanks for the good news. You sound happy, too.

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My first GSD was a happy dog. Sounds like Lola is a happy dog also. Sounds like you are having a good time.


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