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Biting at Back Legso #340362
05/09/16 12:54 PM
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Hi again. Sorry I know my questions are getting annoying! But Ronin has been biting at his back legs a lot lately. He is treated for fleas and ticks, and I brushed him really well, per the vets instructions, took a piece of paper towel and put it under him and brushed him, and looked for the little black specks to suggest fecal matter from fleas, but nothing. I did it all weekend, and each time nothing. He isn't walking weird, and not whimpering as if in pain. At a loss as to what it could be. Allergies? His skin looks normal to me, nothing in his fun, but not an expert so not sure what else to be looking for. He is shedding a lot, but that's all over, and it's mostly his puppy coat I think. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I also believe he may have allergies or a cold, because he keeps rubbing at his eyes too and he now has some white goop coming out of his eyes. I clean it, and have called the vet, but waiting to hear back from them. At first, it was just sleep that was stuck and had gotten hard, but not so much now. Otherwise he's acting normally.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: emilyL] #340363
05/09/16 01:25 PM
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Ask all the questions you want. Hopefully you will get useful answers.
Also, hopefully, some folks that have males can tell you what to
expect with shedding. (Year round?)
Sounds like he may have allergies but just a guess.
Have you taken him for a bath? That might help.
Is he also licking his legs? That could indicate pain.
He is at a good age for pano and could be having some short-term
problems.
So many possibilities and best addressed by a vet.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: PaddyD] #340364
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He's not really licking at his legs. More his flank and the top part of the leg for biting. It's mostly his right back leg, but sometimes his left. I am thinking about taking him to the groomers for a bath because I can't do it at home myself. He hates it so much, that I need at least 1 other person to help me. What is Pano? I've heard of it, but not sure what it is.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: emilyL] #340377
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See below for pano. I apologize for the abbreviation ... hate it
when people throw around acronyms and abbreviations as though everyone knows them.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.read?post=3007-pano-common-in-german-shepherds

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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: PaddyD] #340388
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Oh no worries! I did look it up and I understand it now. smile The vet feels that it's allergies. Either to the pollen now floating in the air or food related. We're just waiting to see how he does this week and then we'll see. But I will watch out for pano for sure! So far so good.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: emilyL] #340389
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You can also give a little bit of Benadryl and see if it helps. If there is no relief than it may be something other than allergies.

Check with the vet for a dosage for a puppy.

Dogs do groom themselves, not quite like cats, but they do groom. It may just be normal grooming behavior.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: Kayos] #340392
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I find that if I touch the area, he will immediately start to bite. I have been keeping his eyes clean, and that is helping, but still having a hard time with the scratching and biting, although he isn't biting as often as before. Not sure what is up with him. I'll contact the vet about the Benadryl and see what they say he should have. But he's acting perfectly normal, running around and playing and eating normally, so I'm hoping that it's just seasonal.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: Kayos] #340401
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Originally Posted By: Kayos

Dogs do groom themselves, not quite like cats, but they do groom. It may just be normal grooming behavior.

Good point!
The area where their loins meet their hind legs is a particularly
difficult area to get at with the grooming brush and hair can
build up there. I have to pull out a little on that skin on Abby to
get at it.
I would advise against allowing enough hair to grow there that
your dog has to groom himself. We lost a dog (when I was a child)
because she had an inoperable hair ball in her stomach from self-grooming.
That was back in the 1940s when (especially my parents) were more
lackadaisical about caring for their pets.


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Thanks for the help! I have begun to brush him 2 times a day now and will sometimes have to hold him down to get to certain areas because he gets so irritated there, but we get it done. We have narrowed it down to possible seasonal allergies. He has started sneezing now when he's outside and when I take him inside is when he scratches. Especially if he lays down in the grass at all. He may outgrow it the vet said, but if not, we'll look at different options. He is shedding his coat as well, so that doesn't help either. He may need a good bath, but I want to wait a little bit because he's not dirty and I don't want to possible irritate his skin even more if I can help it.


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Re: Biting at Back Legso [Re: emilyL] #340470
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Sometimes excessive grooming can be a response to pain, too. I noticed my dog doing a lot of licking/nibbling on her rear legs prior to her diagnosis of IVDD (intervertebral disc disease). It was likely due to pain/nerve irritation.


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