Companion Dog (CD)
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11/23/14 06:09 AM
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elisabeth
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For those who have accomplished their CD title (either for CKC or AKC) what are some helpful tips that you can share in regard to prepping for this?
Any exercises you wish you solidified more before trialing? Any little surprises that you wish you knew about before hand?
Any advice would be welcomed.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
[Re: elisabeth]
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11/23/14 04:19 PM
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I had great advice with my first dog and that was to maintain pace. I think it helped me when Apollo decided to lag 2' behind me all through the off lead heeling. I was so nervous and he was not the most motivated dog (wish I had him when I was a more skilled trainer), but my not slowing down and waiting for him helped keep our score in the reasonable range.
With Tara, I had never trained for an outdoor trial so she was very very distracted. She forgot how to sit through most of the heeling patterns. Luckily she was good enough everywhere else that we got an OK score and passed.
With Treue I had a judge tell me that on the recalls I was moving my fingers. She said she didn't take points because she didn't believe I was even aware of what I was doing. This is where having good people to train with helps. I had this most of the time especially with Apollo and Tara. Most of the work with Treue was on my own.
Know the rules. Be polite. Smile. Don't turn into a zombie. If you think it might help you, do some fun matches. During the long sit/down do NOT stand there staring at your dog. That can make them uncomfortable and more likely to break. I used to look at my watch or over their heads. Know the rules.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
[Re: elisabeth]
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11/24/14 06:57 AM
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For those who have accomplished their CD title (either for CKC or AKC) what are some helpful tips that you can share in regard to prepping for this?
Any exercises you wish you solidified more before trialing? Any little surprises that you wish you knew about before hand?
Any advice would be welcomed. Biggest suggestion I would say is to have "Proofed" the dog in environments with high distractions similar to what you might encounter in the OB ring - i.e. with other people and dogs pretty close to where you and the dog will be working. Also, proofed in noisy and somewhat chaotic situations. And depending on the handler - practice when you are excited and a bit anxious perhaps. Good luck and most of all, have fun with your dog!
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
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11/24/14 01:16 PM
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Relax. I once had a jude tell me to have a shot of Baileys before I went in the ring!
I think the biggest problem for me was overcoming ring nerves. With my first few dogs I had pretty bad ring nerve issues. Any more it is just like whatever..... You pass or not.
You can proof and condition yourslef for many distractions adn sometimes stuff just happens that you cannot predict. I think the biggest is as Lisa said, maintain pace and give your dog a stable paltform to look to. Do stays with other dogs so she is used to that. Try some small breeds too.
I always make the sight picture different for the stays. For the recall my hand position is at my sides. For the stays I cross my arms across my chest and kind of lean back on one foot. I also chose a spot over the dogs left ear to watch. I do not make eye contact on the stays.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
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11/24/14 03:58 PM
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elisabeth
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Thanks everyone!
When we went to our Rally trial I was so nervous I thought I was going to pass out. We pulled through but I could tell I freaked her out a bit with my behaviour (and the judge and Ring Stewart even told me so.. lol). I am usually very calm and collected but for some reason just lost it for this event.
I am signed up for 2 more legs to finish her RN title and then will be doing her RA title first before I try for the CD. We went in blind basically with only working with our trainer twice in this venue so I was extremely pleased with her performance especially since I left her to sorta do it on her own since my nerves got the best of me.
I am working with a trainer now and I feel more confident about this time around. I have had to adjust our training a bit so that I am not so clumsy with the lead.
All of this obedience is to prep me for our schH titles this fall. My trainer wanted me to get some trial experience before I go on the field since my nerves are so crazy. She said it is good for me to try new things and step outside of my comfort zone which is definitely happening!
Thank you for the tips, they are about on par with what I am being told by my trainer so that makes me feel good.
Last edited by elisabeth; 11/24/14 03:59 PM.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
[Re: elisabeth]
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11/24/14 04:17 PM
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The first leg of my very first CD I trialed under one of the toughest judges out there at the time. I wish people hadn't told me that. LOL It was also at the Doberman specialty. I was shaking so badly I thought I was going to collapse. I don't know how my knees didn't buckle and I doubt I breathed through the whole pattern. I sort of wish we had Rally back then to help get my feet wet.
Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen SG1 Deja IPO3 AWD1 KKL1 B/HOT, SG Elena IPO1 KKL CGC B/HOT, LB IPO2 TR3 KKL B/HOT (the ugly little sable), Jarka B/HOT and gone, but not forgotten: Donovan IPO1 TR2 AD, Vala SchH3 AWD1 FH2 CGC B/HOT, Nike SchH1 OB1 TR3 AD HOT, Treue SchH3 CD CGC HOT
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
[Re: lhczth]
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11/24/14 05:16 PM
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elisabeth
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Haha.. yeah, that sounds about right!
The judge we had for our Rally trial was super nice. He was giving all the novice dogs nicknames to try and calm the handlers. Some of the dogs were called, "pond dog" (for the retriever), "mop dog" (for the shih tzu)and Zefra was called "junk yard dog" (he said it was because she looked like one of those mean big old bad dogs you see behind the tall fence... lol). Made me laugh a bit but was still super nervous!
Rally I think will be a good thing for me. I did however get dinged for not talking to my dog and when it was over he asked me, "do you do schutzhund?" and when I said yes, he laughed and said "it shows" and smiled at me.
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Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC, TT G Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" BH, HIC, NTD, ITD, CGN, TT " XX " z Weberhaus
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
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11/25/14 04:40 AM
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I think, especially in A, the judges are really nice, and help you understand that they are not out to get you. Remember too that it isn't the end of the world. If you NQ, you sign up for another trial and qualify at that one, no big deal. You can get a CD with 3 qualifying scores. It never says that you have to have no more than 1 non-qualifying score. You can NQ every weekend for a year, and if you scrape 3 qualifies, doesn't matter, you get your CD.
The thing is, you are probably going to do just fine. They used to have matches, and they were great because you were judged like in a show, by judges, and sometimes even get ribbons, but they only cost $5. It isn't for legs, but you get experience, and you can then get really good before signing up for a show.
Try to find an obedience run-through if you are nervous about it.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
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06/01/15 02:57 AM
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I thought I would update this a bit... after our first trial Zefra got quite sick. She has been back and forth to the vet since for some anal gland issues. Infections and illness have been pretty common around here as Stark is now sick as well. Two sick dogs, TONES of vet appointments don't leave any funds for trialing. Our training had some set back due to this but now that everyone seems to be on the mend (knock on wood, its been a killer winter...  ) I am hoping to get back to classes and hit the trial ring. Thanks for all the suggestions and I will let you know once we get back from the few trials I have planned in the next few months.
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Re: Companion Dog (CD)
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06/01/15 05:32 AM
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Thanks, it has been one heck of a year let me tell you. I don't know if it is a combination of genetics, environment (apartment living) or what... but I am very tired of having sick dogs and I am sure they are sick of being sick.. my poor pups.  They both (knock on wood) seem to be doing okay now, but Zefra is still battling the anal gland thing and if at our next appointment (next month) she is still full and infected when expressed we will be opting for surgery (removal of glands) which will of course set us back again in training. She is very much bothered by this so it will need to happen if we can't maintain. It has been hard and we have had some very worrying nights here this past year.
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Wild Winds Archangel Raphael "Stark", HIC, TT G Wild Winds Zephyr "Zefra" BH, HIC, NTD, ITD, CGN, TT " XX " z Weberhaus
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