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Re: Renji health issues - test Qs [Re: Diana] #310669
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Pancreatitis is a royal PIA. Usually the Pancreas will have some swelling or tenderness in that area when palpated. The dog can have flare or it can be chronic. It is very very painful. IMHO the more flares the more likely that it will become chronic.


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Re: Renji health issues - test Qs [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #310670
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Eagerly awaiting bloodwork results...........


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Re: Renji health issues - test Qs [Re: Diana] #310672
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Spoke with the vet who saw Renji, she is disinclined to think any form of intesinal bloat and, since he wasn't vomiting or presenting with true diarrhea, no pancreatitis, either. She commented that maybe it is a good time for a CT scan or MRI. I might go that route but also might wait for another acute episode. Maybe there are indeed two different things going on here.


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Re: Renji health issues - Prozac? [Re: Diana] #310701
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Quick update. Renji is getting Prozac today. We have a script for six months. There is concern that the SSRI will exacerbate the anxiety and aggression problems. Does anyone have experience on about how long we should be seeing effects? The vets told me about six weeks for a positive outcome but I'm curious about others' experiences with Prozac and other SSRIs.

**I'm breaking this out into a separate topic**

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Re: Renji health issues - Prozac? [Re: Diana] #310705
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The only other real update I have is that his GI noises are a lot louder than usual. This is a recent development. Still waiting on the bloodwork results, too.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310757
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1gqsBdyV1UHRkZudVBYekxINms/edit?usp=sharing

Renji's bloodwork. While nothing seems wildly out of range and they did say the results are normal, there is enough in there to make me question the results. He is on a raw diet which could explain some of the differences but there are still things that don't seem quite right.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310758
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I'm eying those liver values. The episode was Wednesday, the blood draw was Friday. I wonder if we would have seen something concrete on Wednesday. The vets don't believe this was pancreatitis but it makes one wonder.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310763
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I should get a chance to catch up ome late thi afternoon. I think there are definitely ome things that aren't optimal.

How long before the blood draw had he eaten?


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: MaxaLisa] #310764
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Off the top of my head, I'm worried about the low potassium and high glucose (with low anion gap probably from the potassium).

I don't know if there are amy relationships.

Does he pee and/or drink a lot? Some of the high glucose could be a meal before blood draw, but, being fed raw, I do,kt know how high it might spike. Had he had any fluids? If so, when?


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: MaxaLisa] #310767
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His last meal was the evening before. PLENTY of time for typical fasting. Did he drink the day of? Not sure, probably not. He normally drinks a moderate amount, not a whole lot because of the raw diet and water with his meal (powdered supplement). The past few days though he has been urinating more. Not more frequently, but a greater quantity when he does. The water bowl seems to be going down a bit quicker but it's not a huge difference.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310769
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At least 16 hours between meal and blood draw.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310770
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Was he given subQ or IV at the vet, or aat the previous appt?


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: MaxaLisa] #310771
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He was sedated, although I'm not sure if he was sedated prior to the blood draw. I'm 99% certain he was not given intravenous for any purpose other than to sedate. I'd have to check the paperwork.


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: Diana] #310772
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Okay, just trying to figure out how real that high end glucose is. Not at clue at this moment what it means, but he's definitely not "balanced".


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Re: Renji health issues - Bloodwork! [Re: MaxaLisa] #310773
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My question is, was there an acute episode or is this a long term f-up. Being that this is my first dog and first raw-fed dog, that's always in the back of my mind. But since we've had years of good health, I'm pretty sure his diet has been balanced.

You know, he is EXTREMELY itchy lately. His skin looks and smells perfect but he is always ITCHY. No fleas.


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