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Wierd behaviour?? #310523
03/09/14 06:10 PM
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I THINK that I have a general behavioural problem and I don't know if it is normal or not. I have a girl GSD named Luna. She is 2 years and 4 months old. The problem is a bit complicated. She is trained to basic stuff, but she is way too demanding for a dog. She wants our attention SO often. One time she put her paw in my lap and I rewarded her with the food that I was eating so she does that now all the time. Not only for food, though. She will put her paw in my lap almost for everything she wants (walk, playing, attention, food, anything..)and it has become very annoying. Sometimes she does it I believe, because she doesn't know what she wants! She goes to the door, whines for us to open so that she can go out and when we do she makes steps backwards. Simply like she changed her mind. When we don't let her in, she scratches the door, or she sits outside and whines, or she goes at the bottom corner of the door and she kinda sniffs/sighs really loud. It's like she wants us to feel sorry for her and open! Another thing is that she gets very excited. For example, when she sees me grab her leash she kinda jumps around like crazy and pulls really hard on it, despite everything I have tried in order to train her not to. When there is tension on the house and smne is yelling she gets very nervous and jumps on us. Lately, when sitting calmly I have noticed that her head is kinda shivering/ticking for a while. It's like she is really tensed. In addition she is obsessed with catching the ball, in our case orange(cause they are falling from our trees so we usually instead of a ball we throw oranges or lemons) she is obsessed and we can't even sit calmly without her bringing us an orange to throw! All day! But the main problem I believe, is that she whines and sighs all the time. When we tell her to do sth sometimes she doesn't want to litsen so she pretends she doesn't and I have to shout at her in order to listen (when I say get in the house for instance). I don't know it is a bit complicated.. if anyone has the same problem please tell me, is it charakteristic of the breed or am I doing something wrong? Does she need more or less attention? I have tried both with no results.. I adopted her despite my parents everyones objection and it was going good, and everyone was pleased with my training to her but now things are getting so weird that I dont know how to deal with it! Any good suggestions?

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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Mary Rose] #310524
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I am afraid that everything you have described is GSD behavior. except the head ticking?? but without seeing that I couldn't begin to say if that would be a medical thing or not.


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Schnickle Fritz] #310525
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That head ticking seems to be from her excitement/nervousness.. the doctor can't find an explanation but thanks for the reply!

Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Schnickle Fritz] #310526
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Sounds like a typical german shepherd who NEEDS a job to do. Sometimes basic house pet manners are just not enough. How long have you had her? What is your typical daily routine like?


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: BasiaBear] #310527
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Even just a small "job" could make a difference between feeling complete or not... doesn't have to be crazy.

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I am stealing this straight from a post on another recent thread... see #7
http://www.germanwatchdogs.com/blog/how-life-will-change-with-a-german-shepherd/


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: BasiaBear] #310530
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I didn't read it all carefully, hard on a phone when there are no page breaks, but a few thoughts...

Yes, there is ome breed stuff going on, but the question is have these behaviours always been there to some degree, or is this new or severely escalated?

Any recent vaccinations? Any changes in digestion issues? The shivering head thing bothers me a bit.

GSD can experience stress very easily. I would focus not on the issues that are causing you trouble, but the bigger issue. What activities does she participate in? How much exercise is she getting, does she have chew toys that she will use, etc.


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: BasiaBear] #310531
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I've had her since she was 27 days old. Unfortunately we don't have a routine cause our schedules are pretty messed up. When I lived with my parents she just played around in the field following my parents around the farm and when she wanted she got into the house to sit. Now that she is with me in our new house in the city, she stays inside our house. Once or twice a day I take her to 'do her job' in a place 2 minutes away from my house where there is grass, and then again home. We take her almost three times a week more or less for a walk and there we play with her. I don't have the time to take her every day for a walk.. In order to be completely pleased she wants 2 hours of play every day. I am confused.. should I take her back to my parents where she has more space to run an play? I'm afraid that she will miss me cause I've been taking care of he since the beginning. In addition, I will also miss her cause I'm way too bonded with her and I kina need her presence. I will also want to add that when in my parents she used to whine a lot and demand stuff but she was also occuppied with the cats and the chicken so she didn't bother us that much.

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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Mary Rose] #310532
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Originally Posted By: Mary Rose
I don't have the time to take her every day for a walk.. In order to be completely pleased she wants 2 hours of play every day.

This is a huge problem. She's a young GSD and sounds like she has big energy demands that aren't being met. They were, but they suddenly stopped, and you are starting to see the result of all that pent up energy and stress.


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #310533
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Could the stress be caused by the insuffiecient excersize?

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She's not getting enough exercise and mental stimulation. I have an almost 8 yo belgian malinois. If he gets less than 1.5 hours of exercise per day he is a mess. 2 hours is better for him. I never skip out on exercising him, ever. I work 60 to 80 hours a week.

I skip other things but not taking care of his basic needs.


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Mary Rose] #310536
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Originally Posted By: Mary Rose
Could the stress be caused by the insuffiecient excersize?


Yes, absolutely, like Ruth's experience with her Mal.


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #310549
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Any thoughts of incorporating a dog-walker or doggie daycare the days she doesn't get a walk from you?


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Re: Wierd behaviour?? [Re: Mary Rose] #310590
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absolutely...

bred to chase sheep all day long...going out to relieve herself is not job enough.

She needs way more exercise and stimulation. Scent games are more mental and tiring,
but chase, no matter the object (orange, ball, frisbee, toys) are good to.

A tired dog is a good dog, and one with pent up energy bleeding always (whining,shaking) is not tired or challenged enough to be good.

That is the issue, in a nutshell.

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For the last days we followed a daily program of FULL exersize and play (3-4 hours per day at least) so that we could see if that could make a difference, but as soon as we returned home she still had a lot of energy and whined for us to throw the ball. She was crying like she didn't know what she wanted. The head shaking also appeared sometimes when she sat quietly. One morning when I oppened the door to leave for work I noticed that her whole body was shaking and it wasn't cold outside, it was a sunny day.. frown Unless for the shaking and the -random- whining/complaining there is no other physical or 'mental' sign that she has a problem..

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I would take her to a good vet. Sounds like either an ear infection or something neurological. Do her ears smell?


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No, they don't..

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wow,if 3-4 hrs didn't slow her down, could this be just a bad habit? How long has she been this way? The vocalizations are not so odd, but the shaking I wrote off as bleeding drive before should have tapered with more exercise, I would have guessed.

If it's a case where the vocalizations are old hat, that is have been going on for quite awhile, it may be she's not going to change that, especially if she's used to it working for her.

A vet check may be in order too, if these are new and/or odd behaviors.

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That is what I think so, too. I guess that it eventually is a bad habit of hers. Beyond the head shaking, which I will look into further with a new vet, I was wondering about the constant demand of hers for play and attention of course, but since I 've given her the needed excersize and she still demands more I will adress that as a bad habbit smirk

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I am not sure that two days is enough to turn things around. It may also depend on the exercise. Some exercise will "amp up" a dog instead of relaxing the dog because you need to change the state of the mind over time.

I would evaluate what you are feeding, making sure that you are feeding something with no corn, sorghum, wheat, or by-products. Other things may have similar effects, but the diet can play a huge role.

For the head shake, I would see a chiropractor and/or an acupuncturist - not likely a regular vet will have any tools to address that, though they might want to do some xrays to check. They could be mini-seizures too. I would have some of them recorded now, for comparison later, or if you need to show the vet at any time.

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