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underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing #303563
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Hello! Handsome is a 2y.o traditional black and tan saddle GSD. he became a member of our forever home on Friday December 13th. Since having him home initially I have had to take him to the vet 2x. I noticed sat afternoon that he was wincing in pain when his rear quarters were touched. X-rays showed hip displasia. frown so far he's on pain medication as needed at night time so that he can sleep. Then Tuesday evening I noticed he has been panting nonstop since we got him. The vet said is was kennel virus..put him on antibiotics and said it may help but if it is a virus it will have to run it's corse. However he is severely under weight (I can still see ribs) and he has not stopped panting. He is heartworm negative and has been on a preventative since he was tested back in oct.

Thoughts or ideas as to what I'm dealing with? I'm calling the vet when they open..

Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303572
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Some dogs run thin. I've had some that tended to be fatties, some that ran very very thin. (And one pulled from the pound that had every parasite available!) He has only been on the antibiotic for a couple of days as I understand your post. If his panting is indeed a symptom of kennel cough, it will take a while to abide. Good to call the vet when they open - they've seen him, I'm just guessing from your post.... (and I am not a vet!)

Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: middleofnowhere] #303574
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Glad you will be calling the vet.

Non-stop panting can be a sign of pain, stress, overheating, respiratory disorder incl life threatening pneumonia, and... The kind of sound helps in diagnosing. Found this on the web: http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/dog-wheezing-breathing-problems

What pain meds is he on? Some NSAIDs such as Rimadyl can have serious side effects, only in a very small number of dogs, but it is always a concern.

Always check the color of gums (pale if there is internal bleeding), check for dehydration (make skin tent between shoulder blades and watch how long it takes to go back to normal), take temperature (I don't use the rectal ones, dogs get very stressed), feel whether belly is hard and painful. Does he drink and eliminate normally?

In your other post you said he joined you only last Friday after having been in foster care for three months. What was the foster care like? Indoors, outdoors? How many foster dogs, how much fluctuation with new dogs coming directly from the pound joining the pack?

Has he been exposed to other dogs since?

Wondering where he got the kennel cough. Wondering how many dogs were at the foster home that they didn't notice the pain from the HD. Have you contacted the rescue organization, the foster home?

Hope he will feel better soon.


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: shepnterrier] #303581
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Did the panting start or get worse after you started the pain meds?

You might also want to get a copy of the xrays, or a cell phone pic, and post them here, to help with a management plan. A good supplement plan can often eliminate or greatly decrease the need for the pain meds. Before they are prescribed, the vet is supposed to check bloodwork, and the dog should be monitored while on them.

I'm sorry you guys are off to such a rough start - I'm sure it's not what you had planned! But hopefully after this initial stuff gets managed, he will be up and running around well.

How is his digetion doing? Stools?


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: MaxaLisa] #303589
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His pictures in the other thread don't seem to show him being severely under weight. How much does he weigh?
You want him on the lean side for his hips too.
The panting can be a number of things. Stress could very well be it. Was he living outside before or in a kennel? Maybe he is truly warm/hot.


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: Caja's Mom] #303591
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I think a lot of 2 year olds appear thin to those that don't know the breed?


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: MaxaLisa] #303622
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Vet said bring him in and xrays and ultra confirmed the worst.

Gdv
Please pray for my partner.

He's in surgery as I type. Thanks in advance.

Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303623
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And this is incredibly hard for me. I'm VERY experienced with the breed. Certified mwd handler. I lost my girl to this in may. I posted hoping some might have other venues for me to research aside from chf or gdv which are similarly symptomatic until the later stages of progression, but when his abdomen started to tighten we hauled you know what to the 24 hr and they did an outstanding job. He's still in surgery-and they will be tacking.

Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303627
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Bloat, strikes fear in all our hearts hugging

Zooming positive thoughts for your boy. The good news is that many dogs do pull through without long term issues, and I hope your new boy is one of them crossedfingers

Please keep us posted.


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303628
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Originally Posted By: companionmom
I posted hoping some might have other venues for me to research aside from chf or gdv which are similarly symptomatic...

There are other things that can cause panting, but hopefully as we move up the "serious ladder", we can stop at something not as serious.

Before my boy fulled bloated and torsioned, he partially torsed (sp?) off and on the week before. He did not have the panting that you described. However, he did have the panting many years later for other serious reasons.

I might be concerned with SIBO in your boy, but would want more info from the foster home.


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303629
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I'm so sorry that poor Handsome is going through this, but I'm glad that you got him into the vet and that he is being treated. I hope he comes through surgery successfully and has a complete recovery. Please keep us posted. I'm sending you lots of prayers and good thoughts that Handsome will come out of this OK. hugging


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: MaxaLisa] #303631
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The foster was a family home. Much like ours. He was one of 3 indoor dogs, a corgi amd g.dane were the others I believe. He had an outstanding homelife with his fosters, im just afraid he picked up a uri that led to the panting. Big gulps of air over a lengthy period of time= bloat.
He's in recovery now and will ne kept for 24-72 hrs. Time will tell. It was touch amd go in surgery, at one pt apparently his lungs gave out, but he has the heart of a champ. Pulled on thru it.
Thank you for the warm well wishes.

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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: companionmom] #303633
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Poor boy! So glad he pulled through!

Not questioning the foster home, but would want more information, such as what his digestion and stools were like.


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Re: underweight, lack of appetite,rapid breathing [Re: MaxaLisa] #303636
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Oh no what am awful thing for you all to go through frown Hoping is recovery is fast and smooth hugging


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