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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #300834
11/29/13 10:08 AM
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Hello to Miss Moo and the black pony. Looks like you are getting well and truly organized. It's not uncommon for these things to be in the "family". Both Kobe and his litter sister were terrified of thunder. Interestingly they weren't as puppies/youngsters and although they both lived apart and didn't have contact, they both started developing it at around the same time (was about age 5).

Really hope this is the solution for you.


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: Shepherds] #300835
11/29/13 10:56 AM
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Thank you Marie hugging Yes the vet last night said it is more common for 'middle aged' dogs to develop phobias although he said that would usually be around age 7.


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #300873
11/29/13 06:46 PM
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That is a pretty small box laugh

I'm sure that there is a genetic component to this stuff. Interesting about the others...

The DAP plug in (and collar) seemed to really hype Jazz up, o it definitely did *something*


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: MaxaLisa] #300956
11/30/13 08:23 AM
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I found a big box today and cut it down, taped it up and it's not exactly what I think he had in mind! laugh

Oh I didn't know that about Jazz frown It's strange isn't it how things like that work so differently or not at all in others. Molly never showed any response to the spray before. Have got her with her head in the box so far, will keep working on it.

Got her prescriptions today so she has had her first dose of Prozac.


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #300958
11/30/13 09:31 AM
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We will need a picture of her new box smile

I might try her collar again with Jazz at some point, to tet it out. She's funny little squirt. I hope that you will see some positive stuff with the diffuser. I'm not exactly sure I did, but not sure I would have noticed. The collar though my vet seemed to have good experiences with it.

Hope the meds start kicking in crossedfingers !


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: MaxaLisa] #301061
12/01/13 06:26 PM
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Probably too soon to see any response, but I was thinking of her!


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: MaxaLisa] #301140
12/02/13 09:38 AM
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"a funny little squirt" wub wub I had another chat with the behaviourist today to clear up a few questions I had so that was good.

Will take a pic of the box tomorrow....it's a real hash job! I need to find a better box! Waiting for the delivery of the diffuser which I will just leave on in my room (they sleep in there) as the rest of the house is open plan and I would need too many of them. Thank you for thinking of my Moo hugging


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #301154
12/02/13 02:01 PM
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I found with the spray that if I applied it to a bandana that I would have to let it air out because the mixture contains alcohol and most dogs don't seem to like that. Once it has evaporated it is good.

I hope that her box helps her out.


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #301259
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Thank you Val hugging I did use to spray her collar and leave it for about 15 minutes before I put it on her.


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #301262
12/03/13 09:24 AM
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I too would like to see a picture of Miss Moos new haven....or are you concerned it might not meet building regulations laugh.

Any change in anything since starting the Prozac?


Life isn't always about the destination....don't miss the journey

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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: Shepherds] #301314
12/03/13 06:38 PM
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This thread is getting very interesting and there are some really good ideas here. I think I like your behaviorist too.

I never realized most phobias develop in middle age. Havoc has just this year begun to develop thunder storm issues. He has never been noise sensitive and gun shots still do not bother him.

I think I like the box idea and the DAP spray on the collar.

I wonder if we could make this sticky? Wonder if we need Lisa or Val
s permission? I should know the answer to that - silly me!


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Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: Kayos] #301334
12/03/13 10:10 PM
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When I knew we were having stormy weather coming I would spray Deedee's blanket in her crate so it had a chance to air out before she needed it. I also had the DAP plug in next to the crate.

Kathy you might want to try the TranquilTabs for Havie. EntirelyPets Affiliate Link

Other calming products http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/shop/calming-aids/


Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #301353
12/04/13 12:13 AM
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Well we have heavy rain today and thunderstorms forecast frown The specialist said if there is any chance of a storm to give the Propranolol. It is better to give if the storm doesn't eventuate than to give it too late.

So I just gave her one (20 mg) starting dose. It is meant to be 1mg per KG so she is slightly underdosed.

http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=701989

Here are pics, dodgy box building, then I needed to buy a lawn mower for the orchard (I'm too dodgy with the ride-on laugh) so a perfect box for her. Then I have tried the pantyhose but I don't think I have it just right yet.

In her box is a thin bed, an unwashed T-shirt of mine and I have sprayed DAP in there (still waiting for the diffuser to arrive). So if we have a storm I hope she will go in there.





Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #301355
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Oh and he said the idea of the pantyhose is like we use compression stockings for DVT etc, tight but not too constrictive.

Will report back later if there is a storm or to let you know if there is any reaction to the Proprononl.


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Severe storm phobia [Re: bianca] #301397
12/04/13 06:48 AM
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Well so far no thunder but it is still forecast. We have had really heavy rain and Miss Moo has been so nice and relaxed all day. I wouldn't say I have really noticed a difference after giving her the beta blocker so I think that is good. (her heart rate didn't slow so much she fainted which he said could happen). So all in all,(touch wood) a good day for her.


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
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