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Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors #114881
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For seniors who shiver, or who don't move much any more, who don't want to go outside for their walks anymore for the cold, or who just like it warm. Price range varies greatly.

Criteria: The coat should be easy to put on and take off. Thigh muscles and chest covered for warmth and prevention of injury from cold muscles. So the popular coats in the style of horse blankets aren't on this list here. The fabric should be comfortable to wear, not stiff, and be at least wind and snow repellent. Here are my favorites:

Obtrack:
These Swedish coats are individually adjustable, keep the major muscle groups warm, and are made of top performance fleece. Great looking, too. Chip has the Rogle, and it still looks new going into its fourth winter of daily winter wear on long walks in the woods. It was pricey but well worth it:
http://www.obtrack.com/dogcoat/us_rogle.html (Polartec® Thermal Pro™)
http://www.obtrack.com/dogcoat/us_billebjer.html (Polartec® Wind Pro™)
http://www.obtrack.com/dogcoat/us_skrylle.html (Polartec® Power Shield™)
I ordered directly from Sweden (25 % VAT is deducted for orders from outside the EU, shipping is 19 Euro).

PetEdge has a snowsuit with zippered legs and hood, warm and easy to put on, not waterproof:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Apparel-A...c/203/47321.uts
Nannie Millie recommended!!! I wish it would fit the Chipster but isn't made for square framed dogs, and it's not adjustable. Nannie Millie had the blue one, you can see her wearing it in the Nannie Millie book!

Clean Run, the agility site, has two by D-fa that fit the bill:
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=155

SmartPak has one that covers chest, belly, and at least part of the thigh:
http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=9196

RuffWear has two that cover the chest but not the thigh muscles:
http://www.ruffwear.com/dog_coats

Not easy to put on, so not good for seniors, but otherwise great are these one-piece snowsuits made of wind and snow blocking high tech fleece (like the Obtrack Skrylle) http://barkandstuff.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4

Fido Fleece are step-ins with a velcro closure on the back. They cover the chest but not the thigh, and tend to be short in the back for a GSD frame, but worth a look if you prefer to let the dog wear the coat over a mobility aid harness:
http://www.discountdogstuff.com/product/PR-FFCOATS2_Fido-Fleece-Dog-Coats
The fleece is warm but not wind proof.

PetEdge copied the Fido Fleece design:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Apparel-A...c/203/54556.uts

Please add others that you found and that worked for your dogs!

I never thought I'd put clothes on a dog, but had to take a crash course in all breed rescue with the many short haired dogs. It came in handy in senior GSD care here in the NE winters, brrrh. And for Chip who was found with his wire broken coat permanently damaged. I need to put a warm sweater on him before he even goes out to the yard when it's as cold as it is now!


Sarah
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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier] #114885
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It is cold now but with the freakish fall we've had in NE, Morgan hasn't grown the coat she normally would so I've been bundling her up in her fleece jacket. Which is really a mess with fur right now. Maybe those other fleeces are less fur attractive than the one she has. I hope. Her jacket is a mess and I can't get the fur out of it. Just plain can't.

LOL I just finished this festive little number for Morgan. $5 worth of quilt material, some blanket binding tape and gold trim. Took me longer to pin it together than to actually sew it. It wraps around under her belly tighter than I put it on her for pictures in the house.

"Yes, I already kissed you and said I love the coat you made me. Will you open that door and let the cat out, please?"


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier] #114886
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Excellent information! thumbup I saw Nannie Millies's in her book and wondered where it came from. That one is very reasonably priced.

My tripod golden Buddy gets cold more easily at his age. I may have to order one of those.

Thanks!


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: PositiveDog] #114910
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I highly recommend Blue Willow Dog Coats!!!

They use 9 different measurements to custom fit the coat to each individual dog.

The Snow Angel coat is easy on and off and covers the chest and back:



It's made with with an outer layer of Gortex type material, an inner layer of Polertec fleece and an layer of 8.5 oz quilt batting in-between!




These Dobes look mighty toasty!!



They are a bit pricey but quality made and worth the money.

And no, I don't get any kick-backs. smile I just LOVE their products!


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Lauri & the Gang] #115010
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Something I worry about with coats that thick is does the dog get the chance to grow their coat if they're all bundled up? Morgan's jacket covers her flanks and shoulders. Her body parts that stick out of the coat are full of undercoat - her covered up parts not so much even though we only use the jacket for walkies. She doesn't care to be out in the yard if her people are inside.


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Penny the Pocket Panther 8/2/10
Venus of Crooked Creek 1/25/13 Vivacious V!!!

Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier] #115057
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Originally Posted By: shepnterrier

RuffWear has two that cover the chest but not the thigh muscles:
http://www.ruffwear.com/dog_coats


Ruffwear's K9 Overcoat may cover some of the thigh area, especially if you go a size larger.

I have a really nice coat from Scooters Friends which is warm, waterproof, and covers the chest. The front legs do have to be lifted to put it on though.
http://www.scootersfriends.com/products/index.php?collection=Winter+Coats
The one I have is the "puffy coat".

For full coverage, you can't beat K9 Top Coat:
http://www.k9topcoat.com/
Most of their coats have full leg coverage, which may make them harder to put on. However they also have the Kodiak coat made for senior dogs, which covers the body pretty full but has no legs and is made to be easy on/off.
Kodiak: http://www.k9topcoat.com/product.asp?specific=168


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: SunCzarina] #115139
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Quote:
Something I worry about with coats that thick is does the dog get the chance to grow their coat if they're all bundled up?


Speaking for my dogs, they don't have their coats on that long. Just to go out for breaks, they do not get coats.

Mostly, I use mine on Buddy (almost 11) when we go to AAT visits - He is in and out of the car and I want to keep him from being chilled.

I love the coats the dobies have on - I can see where they and greyhounds would need more protection.


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: PositiveDog] #115159
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I know someone whose Dobies have gotten frostbite on their ears from walks in the winter.


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Chicago Canine] #115169
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Here's the Chipster modeling his Obtrack coat

http://www.obtrack.com/dogcoat/us_rogle.html (Polartec® Thermal Pro™)

and in his red snowsuit

Not easy to put on, so not good for seniors, but otherwise great are these one-piece snowsuits made of wind and snow blocking high tech fleece (like the Obtrack Skrylle) http://barkandstuff.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4

Sorry about picture quality - need to take new ones. I made the pic with the olive coat very light so the coat shows - Chippy hasn't paled!


Sarah
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Elly von Rescue, GSD, CGC, HI(C)
Captain Jack, Mama Blue, Little Orca, Bübchen, Tux, Cherub (pocket lions)

Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Lauri & the Gang] #115177
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Originally Posted By: Lauri & the Gang
I highly recommend Blue Willow Dog Coats!!! They use 9 different measurements to custom fit the coat to each individual dog.

Wow, they offer to make the opening for a harness to measure! Great for mobility aid harnesses:

From their web page:
"IF you selected one of the harness opening options, please fill in the following information:

Check Here for FRONT harness opening (on chest)

Back opening: Please measure from the base of the neck to the center of the harness opening: inches

Front opening: Please measure from the top of the breastbone to the center of the harness opening: inches

Our normal harness opening is 1.5 inches long. If you require a different length opening, or have any other harness comments, please provide that here:"


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Elly von Rescue, GSD, CGC, HI(C)
Captain Jack, Mama Blue, Little Orca, Bübchen, Tux, Cherub (pocket lions)

Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Chicago Canine] #115181
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Canine
For full coverage, you can't beat K9 Top Coat:
http://www.k9topcoat.com/
Most of their coats have full leg coverage, which may make them harder to put on. However they also have the Kodiak coat made for senior dogs, which covers the body pretty full but has no legs and is made to be easy on/off.
Kodiak: http://www.k9topcoat.com/product.asp?specific=168

Love the K9topcoat body suits! And their option to make it to measure is great.

One question is how close to the body the fabric should be. The ones Lauri uses seem to leave an air layer, so does ChicagoCanine's have a bit of a gap at the back when the dog moves.
http://www.scootersfriends.com/products/product.php?id=41#header
K9topcoat makes them fit very snug:
http://www.k9topcoat.com/product.asp?specific=jnnriqo8

The natural coat (so the dog has one) could be equivalent to the thermal base layer that humans have to put on. But still, I wouldn't want a wide gap. I think an air layer really adds warmth if it is closed in. I have a mens' parka (for the pockets) that is too wide at the bottom, and I always have to tighten the strings b/c the cold creeps in from below.

Some dogs I want to put in two layers (not GSDs).

Chip has since grown into his Obtrack coat, and has outgrown his snowsuit.
His suit was made by people in TX who run JRTs in agility, and needed a warm up suit to use in the NE. It kept Chip's legs nice and warm.


Sarah
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Elly von Rescue, GSD, CGC, HI(C)
Captain Jack, Mama Blue, Little Orca, Bübchen, Tux, Cherub (pocket lions)

Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier] #116706
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Great thread, thanks for posting Sarah.

I love being outdoors in the freezing winter with my little geriatric family, and have been searching for the best way to dress each one appropriately.

I just came across this article about seniors and basic needs, including temperature regulation:

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/22/131516152/helping-your-good-old-dog-navigate-aging

Basic Needs Of Older Dogs

Veterinary behaviorist Nicholas Dodman is the head of the Animal Behavior department at Tufts Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine and has worked with aging dogs for decades. He says that old age isn't a disease, but a stage of life for pets and owners to navigate.

Among the basic things owners need to know about raising older pets, Dodman says, is that older dogs are typically more sensitive to extreme temperature changes because of changes in their metabolism.

"They're really like older people," he explains. "Older people are often the ones who are the victims of these freezing bouts or extremes of heat. They're less able to thermoregulate. So we have to take account of that by making sure they have some kind of blanketlike coat or contraption on to keep them warm and not keep them out so long in cold weather. The same goes for heat. You really don't want to leave them out in the yard, especially tied up on an extremely hot day. They can dehydrate. They're less able to cope with the change in temperature, and it's a recipe for disaster."

(Some more good information in this article about other basic needs of seniors, including end of life care decisions. Just click on the link above.)


Last edited by matsired; 12/21/10 05:48 PM.

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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: matsired] #116841
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Thanks for the link Donna! I just requested his book from the library.


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: LJsMom] #118673
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Just ran across this lightweight fleece jacket -
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/serv...58901_-1_13971_
If you click on one of the jackets, it has a video to show how it fits.


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Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier] #118691
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Lisa, These are the Fido Fleece coats (good price at sitstay!):
Originally Posted By: shepnterrier

Fido Fleece are step-ins with a velcro closure on the back. They cover the chest but not the thigh, and tend to be short in the back for a GSD frame, but worth a look if you prefer to let the dog wear the coat over a mobility aid harness:
http://www.discountdogstuff.com/product/PR-FFCOATS2_Fido-Fleece-Dog-Coats
The fleece is warm but not wind proof.

PetEdge copied the Fido Fleece design:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Apparel-A...c/203/54556.uts


Sarah
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Elly von Rescue, GSD, CGC, HI(C)
Captain Jack, Mama Blue, Little Orca, Bübchen, Tux, Cherub (pocket lions)

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