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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: Braverhund] #292720
08/22/13 08:36 PM
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Yikes, sorry that came out all in red! hammer Just the disclaimer about starting with easier fish was meant to be highlighted. D'oh! rofl


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: Braverhund] #292742
08/23/13 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: Braverhund
Vinnie, minnows, absolutely! Great idea! We don't worry much about mercury either, as fish isn't an everyday thing. But it's a super way to get whole prey into the dog's diet a few times per week or a few times per month. You can also use any type of bait fish like killies. Grimm is a seasoned raw-fed dog, and has crunched happily through huge fins, long rows of spines, and even the schnoz on a meter-long needlefish! shocked wow Dogs learn to be very thorough and sensible, and a dog who has been exclusively raw-fed for years develops some kick-butt gastric enzymes & stomach acid! paw We live by the sea, and Grimm's well-accustomed to this. Otherwise, to start with, I would strongly recommend much easier fishies as mentioned above. thumbup


Thanks for the tip! I thought the red made it easier for me to read. smile


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: samralf] #292776
08/23/13 04:37 PM
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She gives no reasons for her claims and then describes a very poor diet as an example of the whole prey model. Far better to just describe what she feeds and the reasons why instead of adding the rest. IMO what you quoted makes her ideas less creditable.


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: lhczth] #292827
08/24/13 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: lhczth
She gives no reasons for her claims and then describes a very poor diet as an example of the whole prey model. Far better to just describe what she feeds and the reasons why instead of adding the rest. IMO what you quoted makes her ideas less creditable.


That's what I was thinking. I think it's kind of fishy that the stuff she wants you to add are the stuff that she just so happens to sell......


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: samralf] #292911
08/25/13 05:28 PM
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That's what I was thinking. I think it's kind of fishy that the stuff she wants you to add are the stuff that she just so happens to sell......


Hmmm, imagine that ... interesting.


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: samralf] #294727
09/17/13 03:40 PM
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I'm not sure how Becker formulates her diets, but I am all for formulating one to meet nutritional needs! I think a dog needs certain amounts and proportions of nutrients and if the diet analyzed and tweaked doesn't meet the needs then I supplement. That's not to say you have to feed veggies, as I do not, but I do ensure best I can complete nutrition through the foods I choose to feed. I find that my diets need to be supplemented with zinc, manganese, magnesium, omega 3, cod liver oil and I sometimes add iodine. Since I only have guidelines for adult I chose to feed my puppy kibble until almost 1 year old. Damage could be gone to growth and bones if not fed properly during this time.


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: Braverhund] #294729
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Originally Posted By: Braverhund
It's not balance per each meal, it's balance over time. Kinda like how we feed our own human kids. They don't get eggs, salad, fish, fruits and whole grains at every meal-- we feed those things over the course of a week. So, the diet is balanced... over time.


Not saying this is wrong, and probably a whole nother topic, but for me personally, using the 'we don't formulate our own human diets' argument means little to me judging the overall health of America today- it's poor and too many people are overweight and/or sick.


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Re: Dr. Becker and raw [Re: Natalie559] #294731
09/17/13 03:56 PM
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I think dogs are very resilient, like humans. How many people do we know that survive on crap diets and often appear to do okay? I do agree that variety doesn't equal balance.

My experience with Becker and Mercola, is that they sell things they believe in, so it makes sense that they are going to have articles that align with their products. Certainly does,kt mean that we shouldn't do our own homework though.


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