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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291294
08/07/13 02:32 AM
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Gosh Elvi, you made me cry! Thank you, you are very sweet hugging


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291307
08/07/13 07:51 AM
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I wish I could say things as well as Elvi but please know I 100 agree with her wise words. Hmmmm I have a pair of red shoes, I shall try clicking them together later hugging


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: bianca] #291347
08/07/13 05:31 PM
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Lol, click away bianca, I need all the help I can get!!

I'm feeling a bit better today. There are so many ramifications for an addison's dog, and then there is the quandry if she just has low cortisol, but I not addison's, which I think I very not understood. Lots of ifs ahead!

We are scheduled for 9am monday. It will be about a 3 hour test, so I better pack a midmorning snack to bring with me popcorndrink


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291358
08/07/13 08:18 PM
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What specifically will they be doing as far as test? Bloodwork, x-rays? Will she have to be under anesthesia? I hope the test is not going to be too complicated and there will be definite results. Taking snacks is always a good idea if you ask me smile Hugs

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291361
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More importantly, take your laptop so you can give us continuous updates. smile

You are really turning into some kind of diagnostician. That will surely help Jazz get into the best possible physiological order and will add even more to help you provide the rest of us day after day.

MJ

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Mary Jane] #291362
08/07/13 09:03 PM
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Snacks are always good!!!

MJ, about the laptop rofl

The only reason I was stuck on the addison's thing is that there are so many things here that remind me of max in terms of the anxiety, coping, triggers, inflammation, etc. I feel bad that I didn't know to purue that with max. In addition, jazz has dark skin and a few other issues. I don't want to put too much confidence in this, buit the IMS was a bit concerned at that low number. With her electrolytes okay on her blood tests, I don't think she is at risk for a crisis, so he said monday for the test would be okay.

They take a blood test of the resting cortisol (essentially the test she just had done), and then they give her a shot of something that is supposed to trigger an adrenal stress response. Then 2 hours later they take another blood sample to see if the cortisol spiked. An addison's dog won't be able to increase their cortisol to respond to stress, so the timulation cortisol level will be low in AD. The cortisol should be high if it's not.

Max stimmed high, but there is a logic question I have about this, if the body doesn't produce enough "stuff" to trigger stimulation under stress response, but I'm sure the IMS will have an explanation of that for me.

Luckily the test isn't invasive or too bad, but I don't think it's very comfortable - it wasn't for Max. From an old article: Way back when vet clinics used to pay $150 for a vial of the injection stuff. Then they had to pay $700 per vial, which really jacked up the cost frown I have no idea how much this is going to cost, but I remember paying a lot for Max's, and that was when the vet made a mistake and undercharged me. I will cross my fingers that the price has gone down!


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291372
08/07/13 11:24 PM
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Oh my goodness, $700? That is crazy. Hopefully, it will be cheaper. I am glad the procedure will not be too invasive. No doubt her little teddy bear could be a comfort for her wub Hopefully, the time will pass quickly and she will be able to tolerate the procedure well.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291379
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Oh no, the whole vial won't be used, and it may have come down some.

I just looked, and I paid $275 for Max's on 7/2011. She forgot to add the stuff they injected (and then said she wasn't going to worry about ), which would have brought it to $405. This place is typically more expensive, so I'll be happy if it's not more than $350 (smaller dog, less injectible???).

I'm really getting impatient, I want to know!


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291383
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
I'm really getting impatient, I want to know!


Understandably so. This trying to figure out what is wrong has been a long journey. Time for it to end to where treatment can take place and you guys can live a more relaxing life.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291816
08/12/13 05:02 PM
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Addison's test today, but won't know anything until, at the earliest, tomorrow evening. We have about 15 minutes to wait until the second blood draw, just came in from a walk to rest before the draw.

She is very calm. At this point, Max was panting like crazy (he stimmed very high, o responded strongly as not AD). I'm trying not to read anything into that. They did use the whole vial for her - odd they would use the same amount for both her and a dog Max's size. Also was able to get a stool sample (finally), which is needed for daycare.

Lol, I want to know, and I want to know now laugh


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291828
08/12/13 06:53 PM
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Yes, of course you want to know. You have been waiting too long already. We want to know, too, so please keep us posted Lisa. Hang in there!! I am glad Jazzy is calm. I am sure that makes things a bit easier. Are the tests evaluated locally or do they have to send them out? Hopefully, by tomorrow evening you will have something concrete and start on a specific treatment plan for your sweet baby.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291835
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Thanks for the update, Lisa. I hope the snack was enjoyed-I wasn't clear whether it was for you or Miss Jazz.

crossedfingers you get results and a plan that will let Jazz live to her full potential, which is HUGE.

MJ

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Mary Jane] #291841
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Thanks Elvi and MJ, now we just wait.

Since the wait was only an hour, we didn't get a nack, but did grab a bite on the way home, and also stopped by the Home Depot to pick up some things to make some cavaletti bars to practice on. Jazz had her usual panic attack in the car this morning, and trembling before and after breakfast, but I am pretty amazed at how calm she has been throughout the rest of the day. Either she's growing up, or something I wrong, and I don't know which crazy I guess maybe the test result will shed some light.

$400 for the Addison's test frown They used a whole vial on her, and another $60 for an annual fecal for daycare. Being a specialty clinic, they probably are about the most expensive in town, but we do what we have to do! If she has AD, it'll be some of the best money I've spent though.

Tomorrow will be a LoNg day waiting for that phone call!


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291843
08/12/13 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
and another $60 for an annual fecal for daycare. Being a specialty clinic, they probably are about the most expensive in town, but we do what we have to do! If she has AD, it'll be some of the best money I've spent though.


Yes, to get to the bottom of this is so worth it. Still..... a LOT of money. Ghesh. Please take a breath....tomorrow will come in no time. Hugs.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291867
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crossedfingers Hoping answers are near.

Hang in there!


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