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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MSD] #291078
08/04/13 10:05 PM
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LOL MSD, she certainly has the heart and spirit of a mini-GSD wub

Are you talking about these probiotics: http://www.natren.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=N&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=019 ? Pretty pricey, I have never heard of them before, but that doesn't mean that much....

I started her on some Moducare, and I ordered a few things to try (including transfer factor and lemon balm). The lemon balm is supposed to help with stomach cramping, so I'm hoping it might help in the mornings when she is having anxiety.

Val, thanks for the link. Yes, I am sure that there is a component of that going on. She had that remnant vaginal tissue that caused some of the urinary issues, and the C Perf we think was secondary, so maybe we will get lucky and the only thing left is inflammation and not infection.

Mary Jane, the pink one is the donut wub

LOL, if I knew photoshop, I could paste her on top of that!

So far, she seems to not be worse without the amoxicillin, so that's good. She has such infrequent stools, it's hard to say how things are going exactly.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291079
08/04/13 10:07 PM
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Oh, and the IMS wanted me to go slow with the soluble fiber/pectin. I should have asked him how slow is slow, I think I am crawling at a snail pace.....


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291098
08/04/13 11:16 PM
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My sister has used Transfer Factor for years for her aussies. She swears by it and got my Mom giving it to her elderly cat as well.

I hope it helps Jazz.

Um.. a new picture would be good. paranoid

By the way - best deal I have found for coconut is on vitacost - right now you can get 15% more off using promo code 'lunchbox' and it is already on sale, too.

http://www.vitacost.com/nutiva-extra-virgin-unrefined-coconut-oil-organic

I wish vita cost was one of our affiliate links since I buy there quite often.

Last edited by PositiveDog; 08/04/13 11:25 PM.

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: PositiveDog] #291110
08/05/13 04:38 AM
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I too wish vitacost were an affiliate! Apparently they don't have a program similar to the others. I just picked up some of that brand at Costco. I am going to try cooking with it too.

I was always afraid to use the TF on Indy or Max, so hoping it works well for Jazz.

Lol, snapped these pics the other day - pardon the laundry pile behind the bear picture (I was sorting). Worried about the colors in the other toy (at least they say they are up to kid standards), but she grabbed that toy and dragged it all around the store, wondering if she recognized a long lost distant cousin smile





MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291115
08/05/13 06:51 AM
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Aw, how cute is that! I worry about stuff in toys too but Rafi loves them and other people are always buying him new toys...


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: BowWowMeow] #291129
08/05/13 12:50 PM
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Love those pictures wub ... she's darling!!!


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: arycrest] #291144
08/05/13 02:57 PM
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cute photos


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Schnickle Fritz] #291146
08/05/13 03:39 PM
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Hi MaxaLisa, yes. Here is the 3 step for Natren. I had a casual conversation with someone who says it helped them dramatically and they saw results on their bloodwork, but this was for a human. I'm not sure if appropriate for dogs. They stopped using when they felt better.  Also, we used the Kyolic Moducare so I'm interested to know how Jazz will respond and if you will be doing the trial for the minimum of the 90 days as suggested. Ok, natren, I hope I linked it all correctly. Also, you can buy via amazon affiliate link too. 

1. Megadophilus® is step one in Natren's three-step custom probiotic system. This Lactobacillus acidophilus probiotic product provides support to the small intestine.   
http://www.natren.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=N&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=021

2.  Bifido Factor® is step two in Natren's three-step custom probiotic system. This Bifidobacterium bifidum probiotic product provides support for the large intestine.
http://www.natren.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=N&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=020

3.  Digesta-Lac® is step three in Natren's three-step custom probiotic system. This Lactobacillus bulgaricus probiotic supplement provides support throughout the digestion process*.  
http://www.natren.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=N&Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=022

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MSD] #291170
08/05/13 07:12 PM
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It must be hard to take your eyes off that face.

I hope she is improving with the new strategy for diet and treatment.

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MSD] #291174
08/05/13 07:24 PM
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Thanks wub

MSD, interesting. The #2 is what I think would help her the most, but it contains allergens for her frown


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Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291209
08/06/13 01:56 AM
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That look. She is so funny!!! So good to see her sweet face again. smile


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291213
08/06/13 07:35 AM
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Oh these made my week wub wub She really is such a darling wub


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291235
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Worried about the colors in the other toy (at least they say they are up to kid standards), but she grabbed that toy and dragged it all around the store, wondering if she recognized a long lost distant cousin smile


She's not too spoiled, lol. wink I don't blame you one bit for buying the bear, I would have done the exact same thing. She looks so content sitting with it too.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: SeanRescueMom] #291280
08/07/13 01:44 AM
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She has actually had that bear since last year. She loves that bear....runs to find it when we get home, runs through the house with it in her mouth whining. Brings it up to bed with her too. The nice thing about the doxy dog toy is that is okay to bring outside on the grass smile


Okay, two things.

1. The amoxicillin wasn't doing "nothing". Lots of digestive issues since it was stopped. I will try to up the probiotics and more pectin in the next couple of days, and if that doesn't help, back on the amoxi for the time being.

2. The resting cortisol test came back. It was supposed to be a rule out Addison's, with a value of over 2 being the rule-out. Her value is 0.9, which is even lower than Max's 1.3. So we will be scheduling an Addison's test ($$$$) soon. I'm hoping we can do it on Monday. I gave her some supplements the other day that might mess with things, and I don't want there to be any question.

Even if she doesn't have Addison's, I might be less worried about giving a small physiological dose of pred if that's what we need to get her stable. Geez, if Max used 2.5mg per day, imagine Jazz would need a teeny tiny dose.

This has been on our list of rule outs, but I know that he really didn't expect this. When I asked about running the test at our last visit (so I could mess with some supplements), his response was, "yeah, sure". This would be one step closer to figuring her out if we eliminated it he said, but it was more of a shrug of a shoulder smile

Jazzy is full of surprises!

Last edited by MaxaLisa; 08/07/13 01:48 AM.

MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291284
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Wow Lisa, this medical mystery regarding Jazzy is heart wrenching because both of you are trying so hard and whatever this is continues to be elusive. I wish there were an organization that helps people fund tests in situations like this so that you will not become bankrupt trying to help your little girl. I just wish I could just click those red slippers together and have both of you be in a place of perfect health and well-being. You are both so very special. Bless you Lisa, for your love and devotion to your baby girl. May your reward be great in the days to come.


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