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Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh #287427
06/28/13 07:50 AM
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Today Jazz and I made the trek west today and had the consult with the homeopathic vet. It feels like I am starting fresh with treating Jazz, so I just felt a fresh thread was warranted, continued from here: http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbt...ways#Post275297

Turns out that we aren't starting with homeopathics, but, as always with this vet, very pleased with everything she picked up.

I guess the good news, from her veiwpoint, is that all of these issues seems to stem from the same imbalance, and she's fairly confident that we'll be able to get her past all of this, with some work, and this shouldn't turn into a lifetime of chronic disease. So nice to hear that.

Interesting, and I should have thought of this, but one of the emotions of the kidneys is fear ("... The emotions of the kidneys are fear and willpower. When the energy of the kidneys is weak, a person lives more in fear and acts with less determination than that of a person with stronger Kidney Qi. When the energy of the kidneys is strong, the person makes bold decisions and follows through with a strong mindset." http://moveyourqi.com/water.html ). So it might make some energetic sense that her panic attacks improve with her urinary symptoms on antibiotics.

The vet is going to focus on spleen, stomach and pancreas. We have a couple of herbals to try that I have to order (hopefully she isn't allergic), and she received an acupuncture treatment, which I think she responded really well to. The vet found a place in her back (related to stomach points) that were pretty blocked, and found sensitive areas in her low back. I have found these before and have tried to work on them, but they needed something more than I could do. Disappointed that the holistic vet that I've sorta been working with here in town never even bothered to do a similar evaluation.

In about 3 weeks, I am going to attend a seminar with Jazz that will help teach us tools to help access some of her emotional issues through body work. I don't quite understand it and how it's done in dogs, it's called psychomotor therapy, and this is about the only link that I can find: http://www.goodtherapy.org/Psychomotor.html I know that this vet has practiced this since I first took Indy to her (2001?), and I've always been curious about it, so I guess now is the time to learn. She and another person are conducting the class.

I guess I will be making more long distance trips in the future, it's about a 2 1/2 hour drive, but there are things that I'm supposed to learn here.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #287428
06/28/13 07:51 AM
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Jazz gets acupuncture laugh

In the middle here is one place where my energy is blocked:


No, that antenna sticking out of my head is not for picking up alien signals smile


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #287436
06/28/13 08:29 AM
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Gosh she really is just so darn beautiful wub wub

It's so good to hear you sound so positive and optimistic Lisa. It's about time the two of you can enjoy each other without any health issues hugging hugging


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: bianca] #287451
06/28/13 11:36 AM
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She is so cute. There is a book, it is all about problems with our bodies and what causes them, like kidneys and fear, lungs and not being able to let go of anger. I can't remember the name, but it could help just to read it.
http://maureenminnehanjones.com/Portals/4/newspaper%20article%20CSH_spring_1-2.pdf

Not sure if that is the one recommended to me, but it seems very similar.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: ozzyandsandi] #287452
06/28/13 11:47 AM
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good news:) She looks very relaxed getting her acupuncture!

Hope your journey with her teaches you many things and she is on the road to a full recovery:)


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: JakodaCD OA] #287454
06/28/13 12:00 PM
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She is very cute. And although I am interested to see how this works out I have a hard time with a lot of woowoo stuff.


Kathy

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #287461
06/28/13 12:37 PM
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Lisa, wow, sounds like a new adventure in gaining knowledge for you and Jazzy. The "energy" evaluations is very fascinating to me. The stomach and digestive system also is connected to fear and will be affected by being fearful or letting stress get out of control. I am interested to hear from you how your training will go. Anything you could share would be appreciated.

She is so adorable. How did she do with the needles? Was she calm through the process?

I am glad you found a Vet who seems to be more knowledgable in how to treat Jazzy. What a relief that this is not going to be a chronic issue. So, there is an end to this.

Thanks for the update.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #287466
06/28/13 01:14 PM
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This homeopath is clearly someone you have confidence in and if she can recommend a program that you and Jazz carry out, I think the exercise itself can be curative-whatever its principle. I couldn't make heads or tails of the link-but you will determine in the real world how it works out with Miss Jazmine.

She is such a doll.

You did just get a new car didn't you, so you're equipped for long drives smile.

MJ

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Kayos] #287473
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Originally Posted By: Kayos
She is very cute. And although I am interested to see how this works out I have a hard time with a lot of woowoo stuff.


Kathy - To put some of this in perspective, as a chemist, here's my take on it.

There's plenty of evidence out there that there are chemicals released in our bodies (dogs, too) that are associated with what we consider emotional responses. For example take a look at this article: Chemistry of Fear

Those chemicals ultimately have to be processed in the body somewhere and the liver and kidneys are the bodies first line of defense. So I think there is some scientific basis for the supposition presented by the vet.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Woodreb] #287480
06/28/13 02:41 PM
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What Johanna said makes perfect sense, the doctor had said the same thing about my daughter regarding her autoimmune illness.

Love the last pic of Jazz. wub


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: SeanRescueMom] #287502
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Thanks everyone!

I just ordered the herbals - she sends them into her local herbal pharmacy and I go online and order it....kinda cool, though I wish I were in town to avoid shipping and the dreaded handling.

I have no idea what this class will be about (it's a 7 hour workshop), but hopefully I will have some words afterwards to describe it. It's on 7/20. Interesting about that article Patti.

She did great with the needles. Shortly after the vet left the room for the bit, she had a frenzy of activity where she just wanted to bite everywhere (but not the needles), but then she relaxed and I took the pics. Putting the needles in, she was great, didn't flinch anywhere, and behave so well wub

We went for a walk later, and she got roughed up by a few dogs frown I now understand why owners of small dogs pick their dogs up. People are idiots, and people with rude dogs that won't put their cell phones down are even worse idiots. I'm keeping her with me today to watch, she's pretty ouchy, and I don't know if that's from the release, or what.

She's had so much fatigue lately, I really think that her thyroid is playing a role here. I'm going to start her on this: https://www.standardprocess.com/Products/Veterinary-Formulas/Canine-Thyroid-Support


Last edited by MaxaLisa; 06/28/13 07:03 PM.

MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: SeanRescueMom] #287509
06/28/13 07:24 PM
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Jazz is taking you on a journey and I don't mean a 'road trip' ! I am so pleased you have found a vet who you can trust - the basis of any good relationship. I am sure that Jazz emotional and physical health will improve rapidly now you have found the right person to help - just look at the trust in the face of Jazz with the needles stuck in her - she knows she is in the right place:)

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: anniej] #287520
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Lisa, what do you mean "roughed up"? Was she attacked and bitten or was there a situation with other dogs that really scared her? Worried about little Jazzy. What herbs did she prescribe? I would be interested in knowing.

I hope this new approach will have lasting effects, not only on Jazzy but also on you. Learning what part of our body is connected to what emotions helps us people as well and empowers us to process situations differently.

Hugs


...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #287525
06/28/13 10:32 PM
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Love the pics! Hope this new path is a good one! Mr. Rafi got acupuncture today and he had about 20 needles in him but she was treating some of the same points on him as on Jazz. When she put the needles in for the liver points they started vibrating! wow Then he just about fell over and went to sleep for an hour while he "cooked."

When we left he was noticeably feeling better and leapt into the back of the truck. I will be taking him in more often and fortunately she is only 12 minutes from my house (and acupuncture is only $40).


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: BowWowMeow] #287557
06/29/13 07:35 AM
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Oh no I hope she is ok after the walk?


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