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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Mary Jane] #291994
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Ugh, they do rounds in the morning, with vet interns(?), so I haven't even called. Being a referral center, I guess that makes sense. Not sure when I should call... pacing


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291995
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Now? ...ooops sorry....didn't mean to be pushy LOL

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...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #291997
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spitcoffee I suspect later this afternoon - he probably will call when he knows he has a bit of time to talk, like, what, he expects a million and one questions from me? He's very good about my millions of questions...

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MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #291998
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
spitcoffee I suspect later this afternoon - he problem will call when he knows he has a bit of time to talk, like, what, he expects a million and one questions from me? He's very good about my millions of questions...


rofl Hey, you are a MOM. That's what momma bears do. poke


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: TimberWolf] #292012
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Well, sh*t, nothing is ever clear...

NOT classical Addison's. However, she didn't stim high enough to be "normal".

Normally they want to see the cortisol stimulation greater than 8. She stimmed at 7.2 (I think Max's was around 16). This time, her resting cortisol was much better at 1.9 (greater than 2 essentially rules out addison's).

He said the low stim could be three things:

1) This is her normal,

2) She has relative adrenal insufficiency, where she can't produce enough cortisol when she is sick or stressed (n hindsight, I think Indy had this to some degree, which is also found in mdr1 dogs), or

3) We are catching this early, on the way to full-fledged adrenal insuffiency, and he thinks we should retest in 4-6 months. (Bank account says ouch.)

We both believe that this is either #2 or #3. He did say that if she got really sick or went under anesthesia, he would administer steroids to help her through it. He also said that this does not argue for any type of steroid therapy now.

The intestinal problems are still the driver in this, and we'll continue with this plan of using the pectin for anti-inflammatory, and will have to get a urine sample via cysto and check protein/creatinine ratio if this current regimen doen't resolve the urinary protein issue (he still believes it's from the gut, but does not know for sure).

So, nothing changed really, though I guess I've learned more about my girl...


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #292013
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Well, sh*t, nothing is ever clear...


I am baffled. This is so very weird thinking . Was so hoping for something concrete. I am sorry Lisa. It's frustrating. So weird.


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #292015
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OK, if the intestinal problems are likely to be the driver for this complication and you're paying intense attention to diet supplements and removing other treatments, you're on top of this, too. Right???

This is just too much worry-but that's what happens when you love somebody.

(let's do a coast to coast bake sale for Jazz' labs)

MJ

Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: Mary Jane] #292016
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Thanks Elvi, the universe sends me these dogs, but I really thought this time I'd get a healthier one...hernias, extra vaginal tissue, adrenal malfunction...

MJ, I'm trying to get on top of this, but all the "usual" things aren't really working. Guess there is something I'm supposed to learn here.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #292023
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
the universe sends me these dogs, but I really thought this time I'd get a healthier one...hernias, extra vaginal tissue, adrenal malfunction...


A neighbor once told us we must have a sign hanging over our door - I told her if that's true I'd gladly send it to her address. grin

Hang in there, Lisa, you're doing a great job and you're a great dog mommy too. hugging


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: SeanRescueMom] #292026
08/15/13 01:37 AM
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Hang in there, Lisa. hugging


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: BowWowMeow] #292031
08/15/13 03:44 AM
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Thanks a bunch. We will keep plugging away here....


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #292040
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hugging hugging I can't help with the bake sale (nobody would pay for my cooking) but I can enlist my mum!

So sorry Lisa, I know you had your heart set on some concrete answers hugging


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: bianca] #292046
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Hang in there, Lisa. hugging

I was so hoping this would give definitive answers to what is going on. frown


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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: PositiveDog] #292074
08/15/13 10:34 PM
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Bianca, no one would pay for my cooking either smile

Thank you bianca and Bonnie, knowing what we are fighting would be so nice.

I am starting to rethink the autoimmune issue. Almost wondering about immune deficiency, like an IgA deficiency.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, starting fresh [Re: MaxaLisa] #292125
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I know I've said it before but Jazzy really is the luckiest girl to have you fighting in her corner hugging


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
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