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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: BowWowMeow] #289128
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Frothy vomit is a pretty big indicator. Max was in "pre-bloat" the week before he went full on and torsioned, only I had no clue. His back arching didn't happen right away, so maybe that's a sign that you got to it really quickly.

Glad that the heart and everything is okay. Hoping for a speedy recovery!


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: BowWowMeow] #289134
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Originally Posted By: BowWowMeow
So glad you got him in and he came through the surgery well. Bloat is SO scary. frown How old is he now? I know bloat is more common in older dogs.



Havoc just turned 6 last month.

Losa, the frothy vomit was the clincher for us too. That was the only real classic sign we had and it was enough. So glad we keep Gas X and Pepcid on hand in the dog first aid kit.


Kathy

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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: BowWowMeow] #289140
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When does he come home? Or is he?


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: MaxaLisa] #289156
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Good thing you guys listened to your gut and got Havoc in as quickly as you did. Sending good thoughts for a smooth recovery.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: jetdog] #289159
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Kathy, so glad for Havoc and you. Your quick thinking and perceptive nature saved the day. There's never a dull moment, is there? wink


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: SeanRescueMom] #289166
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just saw this... I am so glad you caught it and acted! I am glad he is doing okay. Prayers for a quick recovery.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: cassadee7] #289168
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Lisa he came home about 3 hours ago. It is 9 PM here now so about 6 PM. HE had a very small meal and is sleeping now.


Kathy

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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: Kayos] #289169
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I hope Havoc (and you) have a good night!


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: BowWowMeow] #289171
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When bloat is in question, I always say better safe than sorry. I am so glad you guys acted and took him in to the vet. I hope you all can rest comfortably tonight.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: Kayos] #289175
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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: TimberWolf] #289181
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Kathy, I'm so sorry this happened, what a scary event. As I'm reading through, I couldnt help but think of my own situation. Would I know the signs? I don't think I would have until I read about your experience.

Big, huge, giant hugs sent out to Havoc, I'm so glad he has parents smart enough to know what to look for and to have a well stocked first aide kit. (Side note to self, pick up some gasx strips)

What a horrible event to go through. Being on an island, I'm also limited to access to vets and ers. I'm just so glad that your vet was close at hand and the outcome for Havoc is looking good.

I hope that by catching this early and having the surgery, you've now been able to prevent a future episode. Hugs to all of your.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: Islandgsds] #289183
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Just checking in, Kathy. I hope you, Joe, Havoc and your other kids are peacefully sleeping.

I've been worried about and thinking about you all, all day.

Just to add my experience to the heap of common wisdom: when Zamboni bloated, she was panting hard and drooling.

That's it, just unusual amounts of drool. She hasn't eaten, drunk water recently, and had been snoozing peacefully.

And some of will remember Zamboni was a beagle/cocker mix. She was, however, a senior citizen and older dogs tend to bloat more.

I gave her 4 gas-x that I had in my purse (we were in my car at the time), called my vet to say we were on our way and drove like a wild woman. Thank God I had a German shepherd so I recognized bloat (I had the symptoms posted on my refrigerator until I could recite them by heart) and because of him, I always had gas-X on my person. I never go anywhere without it.

I learned that pre-bloat symptoms can be very subtle; that any dog can bloat; and I later learned that gas-x can be given in pretty large doses. Talk to your vet NOW to be sure youre giving the right amount for your dog's size, medical issues, etc., but if anything, I always err on giving a little extra than not enough.

Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: 3K9Mom] #289184
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I also have been thinking of Havoc all day too and am so relieved he is now at home hugging hugging

When Molly started to bloat all she did really was whine and change positions every few seconds. Havoc is SO lucky you were so proactive.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: bianca] #289193
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Just read this and about fell out of my chair. So very glad to hear that Havoc is home resting peacefully. Kathy, kudos to Joe for being so insistant about taking Havoc to the vet. Kudos for you for acting so fast with the initial symptoms.

Hugs to all of you! hugging

Hope you have a better day today!


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: DnP] #289197
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Thinking of you and Havoc today. hugging


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: Tara] #289198
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Grimmi and I are both wishing you and Havoc a good, positive day today with lots of good healing for Havoc!


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: TimberWolf] #289209
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Thank goodness this turned out so well Kathy!

I know they can bloat at any age, but with my two both over 5 now, I watch extremely close whenever they seem off. I also keep Gas X and Pepcid on hand just in case. I do need to talk to the vet though and make sure they will be able to come in on emergency for this kind of stuff.

Hoping you had a good night and today brings healing for Havoc!


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This is a good lesson for us who haven't experienced it (yet).
Very happy for Havoc's recovery.
Congratulations on your alertness and teamwork getting him cared for.


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Re: Havoc Just Scared the 'You-Know-What' Out of Us! [Re: PaddyD] #289227
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Havie is wearing his T shirt to cover his incision which is HUGE! He is sliced from his rib cage to his penis.

I did not want him to lick at it while I was at work. He is definitely sore today, he did not even mind not getting to go for a walk today. He is going out to potty on leash for another day or two.

His Tshirt has a GSD on it and the phrase "Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war". Too cute on him.


Kathy

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