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Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: SunCzarina] #276897
03/25/13 06:31 PM
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I can't see the link, but I would not tolerate my pups growling at me for food. Once Fluffy tried, and I took it away from her. She missed that meal. The next morning, I went back to the usual pulling of the tail, moving the food dish, playing with the food, playing with her ears, etc. and she was just fine.

Luckily, Dex is so used to us messing with him that I put my hands over his food and he just licks between my fingers to get his kibble. It tickles and he eventually wins because I just can't take it anymore and let him be. If he ever growled at my though, there would be trouble! I would have to make him wait even longer to get his food.

Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: Barb E] #276935
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Originally Posted By: Barb E
Of course where my friend really failed at that dinner party was having the dog loose in the house when there were guests over.


worth repeating.

My sisters JRTs became overwhelmed at Thanksgiving, too many new people in addition to their teenagers then you add their little cousins (my kids), an old man who thinks dogs should just do for him as he asks when he has no relationship with them. Those poor little dogs, especially the female, she was growling at me and I finally told my sister to get her away from me, that little dog was scaring me.

One new person, maybe 2 friends my dogs are familiar with but that's where I draw the line and box the dog. I get told all the time when we have company, 'oh let him out', 'he's fine', 'he was so charming the last time I was here'. Nope, he's a german shepherd, when there's too many people, I don't want to take the chance that someone is going to make the wrong move.


-Jenn

Otto von Hena-c 5/23/08
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Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: SunCzarina] #277741
03/29/13 10:42 PM
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Personally, (and this is just my personal opinion and how we have raised all of our numerous GSD's over the year - some US show dogs, one BYB, and a few German working dogs); I could not tolerate a family dog who resisted any family member or friend who wanted to take anything away from them. Food or toys or even real bones - all must come out of the dogs mouth when I take a grip or when I say "Out". No decision on the part of the dog is allowed except "Yes"!

A growl esp. must be dealt with very swiftly and firmly. Obviously if one acquires an adult dog the training is different than if with a puppy tyhat you have had since a little small pup. But the result must be the same!

We have pics for example of a brother in law's 4yo child sitting with his legs around our adult GSD's food bowl (they were visiting us), and handing her the food one kibble piece at a time.

Any other behavior is MUCH too dangerous with a family dog, esp. if any visitors ever come by the house.

Just my own opinion - and I really do understand that not all folks have their dog behave that way. And that is cool (as long as they tell me if I visit them!).

Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: Codmaster] #277876
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Define swiftly and firmly. When he growled at me the one time, I dealt with it. Small children (4s and 5 at the time) are not capable, my daughter better than my boys.

I didn't want a dog who didn't growl (warn) and went straight to a bite. The children can take things away from him as an adult. They can be around him while he's eating but even I tell him what I'm doing. I wouldn't put any of my children around his food bowl, that would annoy the dog and why do I want to do that. It's his food. I gave it to him and he'll let me take it away but he doesn't see the kids as superior to him. He's not going to, I gave up on that battle a long time ago.

Right now, he's learning about the puppy... puppy is learning why dogs eat in their crate. Next week, I start with treats so Otto can learn what he learned about being respectful of Morgan. Puppy is a confident little baby bitch so she gets in his face and he's finding little use of her right now, making him edgy...


-Jenn

Otto von Hena-c 5/23/08
Penny the Pocket Panther 8/2/10
Venus of Crooked Creek 1/25/13 Vivacious V!!!

Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: Codmaster] #277896
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Originally Posted By: Codmaster

A growl esp. must be dealt with very swiftly and firmly.

As Jenn alluded to, you have to be careful of this. You don't want to create a dog that doesn't give a warning growl and will strike without warning. You want the growl to diminish naturally as the dogs feels less need to use that warning.


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Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: MaxaLisa] #277922
03/31/13 02:41 AM
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LOL only Venus isn't intimidated by his growl. She found a piece of meat on the floor after dinner and went to show it off to him. Damn she was mad when he took it from her. Either luck or stealthy puppy skill, he was busy doing something else when she dove head first into his bag of kibble...


-Jenn

Otto von Hena-c 5/23/08
Penny the Pocket Panther 8/2/10
Venus of Crooked Creek 1/25/13 Vivacious V!!!

Re: Food Guarders - What method would you use? [Re: SunCzarina] #278074
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More food assertion thoughts.. Tonight, I gated Otto in the galley kitchen with me. He likes to watch me cook and his water & food are in the galley. 9 week old Venus is just starting on solid kibble today so I had put her food down in the main part of the kitchen so I could watch her.

The gate's only 2' tall but Otto knows he's not to jump gates because there's a gate across my bedroom at night so he doesn't chase the cat at 4am.

Otto had gobbled up his food as usual. Venus ate part of her food then went to play with her toys. She would nibble, stand on the gate talking to me then go back to playing.

Otto sat there on the other side of the gate just watching her food. I told him once that's hers and to leave it alone. I was watchful of him but pleased he did the right thing.

Yesterday, he'd growl if she tried to get in the water dish while he was drinking. I kept redirecting her to her own tip proof water bowl on the floor. Today, they were both in his water and he was fine with that.

Not about food assertion but Otto also played tug with the puppy a couple times today, yesterday he was sharing the beloved bumpy ball. Even though he knows it's his, he shared. LOL he also rolled her over in the sand pile a couple times for getting to much in his face.

Last edited by SunCzarina; 04/01/13 01:30 AM.

-Jenn

Otto von Hena-c 5/23/08
Penny the Pocket Panther 8/2/10
Venus of Crooked Creek 1/25/13 Vivacious V!!!

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