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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: MaxaLisa] #250672
09/02/12 05:14 PM
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hugging Hoping you can figure this out and that Miss Moo is feeling back to her usual self soon.


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: AngelJ] #250736
09/03/12 06:17 AM
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Thank you all hugging

Karin, has Heidi ever had an 'episode' like that again? Maybe Molly and Heidi are soul sisters!!!

Lisa, thank you. I have never found any ticks before but that's not to say it hasn't happened.

Just came back from the vet and he took blood - so will wait for results. He does not think Thyroid due to her condition but will test for it.

Her eyes appear fine (no specialist equipment here though).

I got a urine sample (thanks Bonnie!) but left it in the fridge so will drop it off tomorrow hammer

Her weight - oh my gosh she really is a fatty boomba! The first of July she was 27.5kg /60# and today 30.3kg/66# and she has been on restricted rations! He said she looks super healthy (shiny healthy coat and she hasn't had a bath in about 6 months) and only a tiny bit cuddly.

I think she needs to get back down to about 26kg to be nice and lean.

The only thing he could think of if it is not behavioural is lead poisoning. I asked how and he said the most common causes are a) swallowing a fishing sinker b) renovations on the house if it has lead based paint or c) car batteries.

Of all those, I guess she 'could' have found an old sinker in the yard but she is not the type to eat stones etc. If it was Coop I could imagine it.

Anywhoo, I have to wait until we get some results back but he was really stumped too. She was weird again this morning but not for long.


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #250760
09/03/12 02:37 PM
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Has Wonka gone to his new home yet? Just wondering if that was the cause of the snarkiness. Maybe Wonka getting packed up to move, the episodes of kennel cough, Cooper going back and forwards to the vet, moving to the new house, renovations, upsets over Cooper's diagnosis, escaping to the neighbours etc has caused Molly to feel a little unsettled herself and not knowing who to take it out on or what she should be doing. She seems to be a sensitive dog and I can imagine even the fact of you having so much on your plate could effect her. Anyway, just another thought if there is no medical explanation for her behaviour. hugging

ETA: I just read that Wonka is moving on Tuesday so that answers that question. paw

Last edited by Qyn; 09/03/12 02:41 PM.

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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Qyn] #250776
09/03/12 05:09 PM
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A lot of thyroid stuff doesn't show in the coat until it' very very advanced. With her weight, I will hold out hope for something easy like thyroid. Of coure uti would be the easiest crossedfingers


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #250828
09/04/12 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: bianca
Thank you all hugging

Karin, has Heidi ever had an 'episode' like that again? Maybe Molly and Heidi are soul sisters!!!


They sound like they are both very sensitive--especially to noises and storms! Yes, Heidi has had some episodes since. It doesn't happen too often, but I really think it's related to sounds that she hears. There are a quite a few people around here that set off firecrackers regularly (idiots!). I think that sometimes she hears things off in the distance that we can't hear.

In fact, last night we were at my in-laws' house and someone was setting of firecrackers in the distance and she was very scared (shaking, ears erect, looking worried...) and wanted to be up on the outdoor couch with us. My sister-in-law really didn't want her up there, but Heidi kept trying to jump up, so she put a towel on it and let her come up. When Heidi is scared, she wants to be as close as possible to us. After a while, she calmed down.

My in-laws were a little surprised that this big german shepherd was such a scaredy cat!


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Karin] #250860
09/04/12 07:31 AM
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Thank you Alison, that could very well be it hugging

Thank you Lisa, just got an email from the vet:

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Results for Molly are all normal. Thyroid function is also normal. The Total T4 measurement is a good indicator in otherwise healthy animals and for Molly it is right in the middle of normal. I think that pursuing equilibrium dialysis testing for T4 and thyroid antibodies is going to result in normal results. Because there are no blood abnormalities to even hint at a hormonal or toxin problem I am comfortable with these.


Urine test results also normal for biochem and cells.


It is likely her issues are psychological. Perhaps some Clomicalm for a couple of months might help? Happy for you to try some.

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Thank you Karin, they do sound so similar! Poor Heidi, it is so upsetting to see them like that.

So it appears that Miss Moo really does fit in here laugh I think I will give it a few more days and she how she is now Wonka has gone.

Last edited by bianca; 09/04/12 07:32 AM.

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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #250868
09/04/12 10:19 AM
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While I am glad she's not sick, I am sad that it's not an easy fix. I hope the return to a normal routine evens her out. crossedfingers


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Good_Karma] #250872
09/04/12 10:56 AM
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If you would like to try something nonprescription, this is what I use for Skye:

Cholodin

One source: www.healthypets.com/chca50tach.html

I stopped using this for awhile, but decided to continue to give it to both of my seniors.

I buy mine through the affiliate link at Entirely to get a larger container.


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: PositiveDog] #250968
09/05/12 08:14 AM
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Thank you Leah and Bonnie thanks for the link!

She has been ok today but we have windy wet weather predicted so will see how she does.


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #250976
09/05/12 11:58 AM
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Bianca, keeping you and Moo in my good thoughts today. May this behavior be isolated and never return! Hoping that she and you have a good day today, and Cooper too! smile


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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Braverhund] #251066
09/06/12 08:47 AM
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Awww thank you Patti hugging

She's not been too freaky today.

I have her results but I can't figure out how to post. (It is an email attachment - adobe)


Molly Moo (aka The Piranha, 4 legged mouth) GSD (31/10/09)
Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #251158
09/06/12 09:23 PM
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Bianca, do you know how to do a screenshot? You could post the results that way.


Leah
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #251171
09/06/12 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: bianca

I have her results but I can't figure out how to post. (It is an email attachment - adobe)

I might be able to export to a photo, or at least can make a link for it if you want me to put it in my google docs folder. If you'd like that, email me the file.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: MaxaLisa] #251225
09/07/12 10:38 AM
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Thank you! Der I didn't even think of taking a pic!




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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca] #251226
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And I just realised they have her date of birth as 1/1/09, she is not 3 yet but I doubt that makes any difference.


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
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