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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe] #255068
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Really great news overall!

Originally Posted By: LifeAsMe
First, while examining Banshee, his response was "Wow, where is it?" He said because of the way the mass responded to the prednisone that it was NOT MCT. Said that the tumors that respond to pred are typically benign

I know that this is not entirely my vet's experience. But certainly hope it's true in Banshee's case. Am curiou what the name of these other things are.

I would be cautious, you probably can't wean too slowly.


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa] #255079
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That sounds really positive! Banshee must be a tough 'ole' broad smile


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa] #255133
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa


I would be cautious, you probably can't wean too slowly.


She's been on the weaning dosage for almost a week longer so it should be fine. Right now it's a wait and see game. Does the mass come back? Does the back pain come back?

She's a tough ole bird...

Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe] #255134
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I'm guesing the back pain comes back, but may be more slowly. Mass, hope not.

Re: the weaning. I wasn't thinking so much about the pred in how it's typically weaned. I was thinking you have a dog with a long term immune response. You are weaning from the pred and talking about stopping the supplements. That's a lot to withdraw from for a dog that has been on things long term. Problem might not show up right away, may take awhile. My experience is if it comes back, it will be harder to control, so better to really gradually step down over months rather than weeks when talking about the whole thing together.

Last edited by MaxaLisa; 10/06/12 09:04 PM. Reason: bad cell phone grammar!

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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa] #255150
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Another angle...

If there is an inflammatory component to these lumps, the tagamet, stimulating the immune system, may actually promote inflammation.

I guess I would tend to stop the tagamet first while maintaining pred, then wean pred, and wean off the quercitin last, or maybe knock it down to smaller or less frequent dosing.


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa] #255267
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LifeAsMe— wow, this sounds like amazing news, is that right? Hugs and best wishes,

Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MSD] #255392
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I'm not sure if it's amazing or not yet. smile Right now, it's a wait and see game. The pred is starting to work out of her system and while she's not limping, she has slowed considerably and walks like a old lady again. I hate pred...makes you feel great until it kills you...which is one reason the vet wants to try her off of it for a little while and ultimately, it will be our choice to put her back on it for a maintenance dosage. I would like to know the length of time a dog can be put on pred before the bad side affects start. Is it weeks? Months? Years?

Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe] #255394
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For what it's worth, Rica was on a maintenance dose of pred to help with her HD for 5 or 6 years. I think we gave it to her every 3 days for most of that time and it was a low dose. But I don't recall what the dose was.

She had the increased appetite, not much problem with excessive thirst/peeing and never really had any other effects that I know of.

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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: Woodreb] #255413
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Max was only on 2.5mg per day, for about 6(?) months, and his bloodwork showed no real movement from the pred. That's an awfully low dose, but it was enough to keep his back from hurting a lot.


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa] #261167
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Happy 13th Birthday, Banshee

party

Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe] #261169
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Happy birthday Banshee. Great to see you've made it to 13! party

And happy birthday, LifeasMe - I see the cake by your name.


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: Woodreb] #261187
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Happy Birthday to Banshee and to you! party


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: PositiveDog] #261195
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Amazing! Happy Birthday to both of you!


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: BowWowMeow] #261201
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Happy Birthday Banshee (and you)! congrats


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Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: Qyn] #261210
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so glad you made it to 13, hope you had a special day Banshee!


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