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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: MaxaLisa] #215081
02/24/12 05:24 PM
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Basia has been completely sedated under my care once, when she needed stitches from getting bit by another dog. Anesthesia was a concern of mine as well, but she was quite alright with it. And then when in the rescue, she was completely sedated at least twice (she was spayed twice because they didn't get everything the first time and she ended up going into heat) and I presume there were no reactions then either.

Also, the other day I shadowed at a vet clinic and I saw them sedate many dogs and cats for various procedures (the cat had the dental work), and all of the animals came out of it just fine. It was actually quite nice and reassuring for me to see how things work back there behind the scenes.

I didn't read all of the posts but I saw some talk about raw feeding, which I was going to recommend as well. It is miraculous how much Basia's teeth improved after I switched her to raw (along with her coat and much more). She had sooo much tartar build up from kibble and after just a couple months it had completely disappeared. She probably will never need dental work done now. Starting the raw was daunting for me as well, but it wasn't that bad and I did get the hang of it pretty quickly. The trainer that I see was giving a seminar about raw feeding, which is what really helped me get jump-started. I would start with some chicken drumsticks, skin, bone, and all, like you were saying. The one thing I'd have to warn about is if Max doesn't chew the bone as much as he should, he might throw it back up. Basia does that once in a while, she's such a fast eater. She has pancreas issues as well but she did fine with the change. Once I switched to raw I would never think about going back to kibble, it's amazing. Hope it helps!


Danielle
~Basia
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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: BasiaBear] #215083
02/24/12 06:45 PM
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Gosh, you guys are an inspiration. Thank you so much. Checked the chicken wings and drumstick prices at Whole Foods and a family pack is very reasonable and will last me a week.

I noticed the bones have the marrow in it. Can the dogs eat that, too or is that too rich for them? What do you think?

I am going to start after Max's procedure because I don't want to risk him going into the procedure with his tummy upset. Yes, he definitely eats very fast and swallows stuff unchewed. So, I think giving it to him frozen will help to slow him down.

Lisa, thank you for the link to the pancreatic enzymes. I have to order some stuff from Swansons anyway, so I might as well order that with it.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/JR024/ItemDetail?n=0

I am going to keep the VitaCost page bookmarked so I can compare prices between the two as I order supplements in the future. It's always great to have another resource.

I love you guys. Thank you. You have no idea how much I appreciate this.

Last edited by LMS; 02/24/12 06:54 PM.

...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf] #215112
02/24/12 09:01 PM
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Elvi, I'm going to answer some of your questions on the RAW topic I started - Good Prices. Don't want to hijack the dental thread!


Jan - Mom to:

Beau & Chance - German/Anatolian Shepherds
Bailey - Labrador Granddog
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: GrandJan] #215710
02/27/12 07:08 PM
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I am dropping Max off at 8:30 a.m. tomorrow morning for his dental procedure. Would appreciate any good wishes, thoughts and prayers. Thanks.

Max thanks you, too






Last edited by LMS; 02/27/12 07:10 PM.

...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf] #215734
02/27/12 09:07 PM
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crossedfingers for all good things.

ETA - look at those eyes... wub

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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #215751
02/27/12 09:53 PM
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All the best thoughts go with you and sweetie Max tomorrow. crossedfingers


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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: GrandJan] #215760
02/27/12 11:01 PM
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What a sweet face!!! wub

Sending Max my best wishes for his toofies tomorrow!!!


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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: arycrest] #215796
02/28/12 12:47 AM
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Thanks everyone. We appreciate it. Will post how it goes tomorrow.


...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf] #215942
02/28/12 06:42 PM
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So I dropped Max off this morning for his appointment and talked with the Vet about the vWd test. He told me that while they are able to do the test locally, they will have to send it out to an outside lab which means that the results would be back in a few days. When I first talked to the receptionist several days ago, I specifically mentioned that I wanted that test included to which she assured me that I could talk with the nurse when I drop him off and it would be taken care of then. mad I *obviously* don't have time NOW to have the test done because the procedure is being done TODAY. Seriously? You couldn't tell me that when I spoke with you a few days ago so I could have brought him in to have it done prior to today?

I was like...I need to know whether he is susceptible to this blood disorder and he suggested they do a more sophisticated blood test which should give them an indicator of that condition if he has it. So, I agreed to that and shared with him that I wanted him to have a blood test done anyway to get baseline data because I am going to switch to Raw feeding and will re-test in a few months to see how his values have changed negatively or positively after the change of diet. His response:"You know us Vets do not like that whole Raw feeding thing". I responded:"Yeah, I figured but I am going to give this an honest try and have his blood re-checked and if he is doing good with it, that's what I will be doing. If not, I can always get him back on kibble".

Max should be ready to be picked up after 3 p.m. Lexie and Sophie are confused not having our Teddy Bear here. They probably think I ditched him. I guess I can look like a hero coming back with him again this afternoon, huh? LOL.

Ooops, sorry, this is way longer than I wanted it to be. Pardonez moi!!

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...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf] #215983
02/28/12 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: LMS
... So, I agreed to that and shared with him that I wanted him to have a blood test done anyway to get baseline data because I am going to switch to Raw feeding and will re-test in a few months to see how his values have changed negatively or positively after the change of diet. His response:"You know us Vets do not like that whole Raw feeding thing". I responded:"Yeah, I figured but I am going to give this an honest try and have his blood re-checked and if he is doing good with it, that's what I will be doing. If not, I can always get him back on kibble".

...


I's also say - what did they eat 100 years ago, when kibble didn't exist. laugh

My regular vet is on the fence, would rather we fed a kibble, but doesn't give me a hard time about what we feed.
Aodhán's chiropractic vet was all for feeding a raw diet - being a holistic vet she was much more open to raw feeding.

I'm sure Max will be happy to see you when you go to pick him up and everyone will be glad when he's home.


Johanna

Caleb (aka Caleb-Moose)
Ciara(aka Ciara Belle, Black Devil)

RIP Aodhán, Rica, Max, Kelly - gone but never forgotten - forever in my heart
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: Woodreb] #216009
02/28/12 11:08 PM
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Max is back home and doing well. The results:

Stage III Periodontitis. They did not have to pull any teeth though.

Blood Panel (CBC Level IV) came out good. Everything is within the normal range.

X-Ray. HD, primarily in his left hip.









Vet made it sound like no big deal but I don't know. The left hip looks pretty bad to me. He suggested Max lose 7 pounds and stressed not to give him too much protein because that would cause him to gain weight. He mentioned that feeding Raw may give him too much protein. I don't agree with him but I thought it was interesting that he said that. So, that's the scoop.

Thanks for looking and being interested in our Maxi Poo. Vet put him on Clindamycin (300 mg) for the next few days (Antibiotic).

He wants Max to get a yearly dental cleaning and if need be also Intermittent Antibiotic Therapy. I told him I wanted to see what the Raw feeding, gnawing on bones will do and take it from there.

Last edited by LMS; 02/28/12 11:09 PM.

...in remembrance of all Timber Wolves unjustifyably hunted down and killed for no valid reason at all.
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf] #216013
02/28/12 11:24 PM
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A yearly dental cleaning? Yikes!

Wonder what he will say when Max's teeth are all bright and shiny next year?

Good information on these posts.

I am so sorry to see the HD - hopefully when Max drops a few pounds that will help keep it from becoming more severe.

Thanks all.


Bonnie

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SamCat, 03/2011
Bennie the 12 1/2% GSD 02/2013

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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: PositiveDog] #216017
02/28/12 11:42 PM
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If you are not I would put Max on a joint supplement. There are usually some good suggestions from members as to a good one (I use a human supplement and it works well for my dogs).

The hip joints are pretty shallow, not the worst I have seen. Weight loss would be a good thing and then low impact exercise, walking is good but on grass not concrete.


Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

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Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #216024
02/29/12 12:11 AM
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Glad the dental went well! This is what I do for HD:

Springtime Inc. Joint Health and/or Longevity (Rafi gets a triple dose)
2220mg Ester C/day (work up to it gradually)
Omega 3-6-9 capsules

Swimming and long walks are great for joints.

It is very important to get the weight off. The best way to do that is to increase (moderate) exercise and feed a good quality food that doesn't have a lot of extra carbs.


Ruth

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Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
...............
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Queen Cleopatra
Chama
Kai
Basu
Massie
Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: PositiveDog] #216054
02/29/12 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
A yearly dental cleaning? Yikes!

Yeah, that was my reaction, too. LOL

Quote:
Wonder what he will say when Max's teeth are all bright and shiny next year?

I hope so. That would be great and a huge relief.


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