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Am I being bloat paranoid? #204617
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Tooz pyo'd 2 weeks ago and maybe I am being a little paranoid. Today, she threw up...bile and a few chunks of bone from her breakfast (she is raw fed). She pooped twice today. She ate dinner around 5:30 and is acting normally but she has wicked gas. Now, she is sleeping on the couch and her belly is making gurgling noises. I am now staring at her wondering if she is going to bloat! Of course, I have no Gas X in the house but I will run out and buy it. Would it hurt to give it to her? What kind should I get? I also saw LJsMom's post on the recall. Am I just being paranoid??? paranoid


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: SLEACHY] #204618
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I always say, follow your deep down instincts.

GasX, small meals. I would give any probiotics at this point (gas producing).


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: MaxaLisa] #204624
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What about activated charcoal? That works great for gas.


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: BowWowMeow] #204626
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I always buy the generic, whatever has the same amount of simethicone. It won't hurt to give it as a precaution. I do that a lot, anytime anyone starts doing weird things that make me uncomfortable.


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: AgilePaws] #204635
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I have done the same a few times because I get paranoid too. I can say that it does help to relieve the gassy odors which was a pleasant surprise smile


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: Zisso] #204638
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I ran out to the store and picked up Phazyme which has 180mg of simethicone as compared to the 125mg in Gas-X. Tooz is acting totally normally...she went outside, pooped solid, and it seems that the gurgling noises have stopped. I didn't give the Phazyme but at least I now have it in the house!


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: SLEACHY] #204643
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I've given the Hooligans two of the Gas-X capsules without any problems. I've taken two myself without any problems!


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: arycrest] #204644
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We made a handout on bloat for the rescue after a bloat case. I think gurgling is good. Hope she's okay!

What Are Signs and Symptoms? Remember, not all of these can or will happen at the same
time—these are things to be looking for:
• Abdominal distention (swollen belly) makes it obvious—this does not always happen, or happen
right away
• Nonproductive vomiting (animal appears to be vomiting, but nothing comes up) and retching.
Sometimes white foamy liquid or mucous will come out.
• This seems to be one of the most common symptoms & has been referred to as the
"hallmark symptom"
• Some reports say that it can sound like a repeated cough
• Restlessness and/or anxiety, whining
• Not acting like themselves
• Asking to go outside in the middle of the night. If this is combined with frequent attempts to vomit,
and if your dog doesn't typically ask to go outside in the middle of the night, bloat is a very real
possibility.
• Abdominal pain and/or discomfort
• "Hunched up" or "roached up" appearance (also a sign of pancreatitis—another medical
emergency)
• Lack of normal gurgling and digestive sounds in the stomach
Many dog owners report this after putting their ear to their dog's stomach
If your dog shows any bloat symptoms, you may want to try this immediately
• Pale or off-color gums: Dark red in early stages, white or blue in later stages
• Rapid shallow breathing and/or panting
• A lot of drooling may indicate severe pain
• Digging bedding
• Licking bedding
• Unable to get comfortable
• Drum like thumping noise when you hit their sides
• Coughing
• Foamy mucous around the lips, or vomiting foamy mucous
• Pacing
• Unproductive attempts to defecate
• Licking the air
• Seeking a hiding place
• Looking at their side or other evidence of abdominal pain or discomfort
• May refuse to lie down or even sit down
• May stand spread-legged
• May curl up in a ball or go into a praying or crouched position
• May attempt to eat small stones and twigs
• Drinking excessively
• Heavy or rapid panting
• Shallow breathing
• Cold mouth membranes
• Apparent weakness; unable to stand or has a spread-legged stance especially in advanced stage
• Accelerated heartbeat: heart rate increases as bloating progresses
• Weak pulse
• Collapse

Information in this handout complied from:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1571&aid=402
http://www.globalspan.net/bloat.htm with many links at the bottom

Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #204657
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This is hard to watch, but worth viewing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1WrT2719yo


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: Jane Jean] #204665
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This video is really very helpful for me because I've never seen bloat in action.

What doesn't make sense though, is that although this is a very valuable visual and I am grateful to have viewed it ... what in the heck were they doing video-taping it instead of rushing him to the vet?


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: FurKids] #204669
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Gurgly gut is a GOOD sign - in dogs and in horses (colic).

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Oops and for the OP: I would be the last person to accuse anyone of being to paranoid about bloat. Far as I'm concerned bloat + paranoia (or any word that has a similar meaning) belong in the same sentence.


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Originally Posted By: FurKids
This video is really very helpful for me because I've never seen bloat in action.

What doesn't make sense though, is that although this is a very valuable visual and I am grateful to have viewed it ... what in the heck were they doing video-taping it instead of rushing him to the vet?


From what I understand, they had just adopted the dog and didn't know that it was bloat at first.


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: Grakira] #204687
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Under 'Health'/'Index of Issues and Information' are stickies to health issues and emergencies incl. bloat:

http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4854/Bloat_Information#Post4854

Lisa, can you perhaps add Jean's list of symptoms to this stickie?
Very helpful.


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: shepnterrier] #204833
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Originally Posted By: shepnterrier
Under 'Health'/'Index of Issues and Information' are stickies to health issues and emergencies incl. bloat:

http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4854/Bloat_Information#Post4854

Lisa, can you perhaps add Jean's list of symptoms to this stickie?
Very helpful.


Done smile


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Re: Am I being bloat paranoid? [Re: MaxaLisa] #214819
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Being 'bloat paranoid' saved one of my dogs life. But as several said, the gurgling is good. The air is moving around. It's when it can't move is the problem!


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