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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209148
01/29/12 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: DancingCavy
Okay. I thought it seemed really long, too. Like treating someone with chemo and then checking to make sure they're cancer-free a year later. I only waited 6 weeks after removing the tick to find out she had Lyme in the first place.

Yes, it makes monitoring treatment difficult. Titers do go down slowly, and the SNAP may be positive for awhile. This is one reason I like the multiplex in a dog right now, I think the test, combined with their discounted shipping @ cornell is under $100, and gives more info than the c6. I'm not sure when I would run the c6, wonder if 6 weeks after is too soon.

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She's on 100 mg twice a day for 28 days. Standard protocol. From what little research I've done, most dogs respond to that no problem and it kicks the disease to the curb. I know there are always exceptions but I hope, this one time, that Risa isn't one of them.


Once a lyme dog, always a lyme dog. Lyme is chronic, and at best you hope to knock it into remission and you hope that Risa's immune system is strong enough to keep it there. Lyme takes different forms in the body and antibiotics cannot kill all of them.

If not treated properly, you run the risk of relapse (highly likely), or down the road maybe you start seeing incontinence or kidney issues that you start blaming on other things, or early debiliting arthritis, or pancreatitis, and the list goes on.

If you treat conservatively and only for 4 weeks, hope, but do not expect that this is the last you see of her Lyme. If you ever revaccinate for anything, I would run bloodwork and C6 a couple of months after the vaccination rather than at the same appt. Having a test like the C6 or the mulltiplex is handy. Can't tell you how many cases of lyme "flares" we see on the tick list.

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Yes. Her bloodwork showed a slightly low, clumped platelet count when I had it run in July. But I also had a heartworm/tick test run at the same time and it was clear. I would bet money that she picked up Lyme recently from that tick on her. I will probably run bloodwork on her again at her annual appointment. But, honestly, looking at her values over time; I'm pretty sure she's always had those anomalies. Every dog's normal is different.

Well, unless you have years of bloodtests on a spreadsheet, you have no idea what her "normal" is. For this reason, I'm glad that she is getting doxy, just in case, as amoxicillin wouldn't touch the stuff that interferes with platelets.

Too much confidence in the snap test is also dangerous. Not only can it be wrong (we have seen this frequently), but there are more tick diseases that cause platelet issues that it doesn't test for than those it does test test for.

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At least, so far, she seems to be tolerating the doxy fine. She only just had her second dose a half hour ago, though.

This is good news smile

Be sure to take note of any positive changes you see, be sure to write them down somewhere, so you will learn to recognize her subtle signs if she flares later.


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #209189
01/30/12 12:04 AM
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I actually did put her years of bloodwork into a spreadsheet so I could compare. Her counts aren't always outside the normal range, but they're usually low. Since I have 4-6 different blood work results to compare to, I can see that this seems to be her normal. Whether she's having gut issues at the time or not.



I'll call the vet tomorrow and see if we can't have a discussion about increasing the dosage. Beyond that, I guess I'll just hope beyond hope we can kick this thing in the butt and never have to worry about it again. The way things are going these days. . .it seems like that's asking for a miracle. frown

Poop was a bit loose and mucusy today. But that could be due to the pork ribs she had for dinner rather than the doxy. (Dog food store can't get the food I've been feeding Risa. The distributor is out. frown )

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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209198
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Doxy usually does not cause loose stools, so I would first suspect the food. It usually causes nausea. However, we know that those things can be very individual!

I was looking for C6 values, thought I found a good comparison here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2223868/
BUT, they vaccinated the dogs in that study, which alters immune system response, so is hard to apply. What was interesting in Table 2, is that the vast majority of these dogs were treated with the aggressive dose of doxy (called HD there).


Ah, forgot you do have a spreadsheet!!
Originally Posted By: DancingCavy

And it took me a minute, but I forgot that I have to being VERY careful looking at the numbers, since the normal ranges are often different from year to year.

While she probably has some sitehound in her that will run higher RBC and lower WBC, I am concerned with the last July numbers, generally showing more immune suppression. In some sense, it is even surprising that she showed a positive lyme test, since sometimes a compromised immune system won't, and that C6 only starts to elevated shortly after treatment starts.

Frankly, I do worry about your vet, but hope that she pays more attention to this. We have all sorts on the tick list, and this is one reason some owners end up supplementing conservative treatment with Bird Biotic.


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #209202
01/30/12 01:19 AM
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Well, Risa did go through some pretty serious gut stuff last year. From around September 2010 to May-ish 2011, she was having pretty much non-stop loose stool/diarrhea. And nausea. It was the longest she's ever gone with that sort of gut stuff. It's usually 6 months at most. That could certainly have affected her immune system. I almost ran a CBC along with the Snap test when I took her in on Monday to see where she stood since I never got around to re-doing it in the fall.

I don't know how easy it will be to judge whether or not Risa has Lyme flares. It was hard enough to really notice any differences from mid-December til now. Her pace on walks went from her usual trot to a walk. But she does that when she's afraid or worried about something too. And it's not always clear which it is. She was also a bit hesitant to hop up onto things and slow going up stairs or into the car on occasion (but not consistently). Since she has back problems as well, this makes it hard to determine which is causing it since she acts like that when her back is sore too. She was also being a bit more spooky than is usual but, again, she has had moments like that before too.

We are expecting a call from Risa's TCVM vet next month to check and see how her gut is holding up. (Aside from occasional loose poo after eating pork, things have been really good!) I will discuss the Lyme issue with her as well and see if she has any herbs or acupuncture ideas that might help supplement Risa's immune system and help kick Lyme's butt.

*HUGE SIGH OF SADNESS*

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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209213
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Hopefully you will see some noticeable changes. With Indy, she just had a harder time moving, and would become afraid of the dark wub

Samento and Teasel Root is often used for Lyme, but I really don't know how effective it is.


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #209421
01/31/12 12:08 AM
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Left a message for my vet to call me about the doxy dosage. Didn't get a call back. Will print out the information, drop it off tomorrow (her day off), and request a call back ASAP on Wednesday so we can discuss it.

May start looking for a new vet too. Especially if things don't go well. I'm already pretty displeased at how the initial Snap test was handled. And the knowledge that I might not have been informed of the 'weak positive' had this been her annual bloodwork. . .

*Sigh*


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209499
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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #209586
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Dropped off the info. Thought about it some more today. With her low WBC numbers, even if that is normal for her, could that play a part in her not being able to tackle the disease on her own? I also worry that her long-standing history of gut issues has either caused a weakened immune system and/or is caused BY a weakened immune system. Maybe she doesn't have the capacity to battle Lyme on her own and needs the stronger dosage and longer treatment time.

While she seems to be less achy in the joints since starting doxy, she's still not 100%. And her increased spookiness hasn't dissipated either. Just today, she got really freaked out by a noise on her walk. While this isn't entirely abnormal for her, I wonder if it's significant because of the positive Lyme test. Perhaps the dosage isn't high enough.

Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws. I don't know. I know you only get one chance to treat it the first time. I would definitely feel better hitting it hard. I just don't know if I can convince my vet that it would be a good idea. I am going to try, though.

At least her gut is fine. She finally pooped again today and it was picture-perfect like usual. Usual as of late anyway. smile No problems with doxy at least.

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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209672
02/01/12 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: DancingCavy
Dropped off the info. Thought about it some more today. With her low WBC numbers, even if that is normal for her, could that play a part in her not being able to tackle the disease on her own? I also worry that her long-standing history of gut issues has either caused a weakened immune system and/or is caused BY a weakened immune system. Maybe she doesn't have the capacity to battle Lyme on her own and needs the stronger dosage and longer treatment time.

I think that this is a concern. I had this concern with Max - all his blood counts went low, and he was IgA, IgM, and IgG deficient - figured he just can't mount a proper response. Risa tends to run on the lower end, so I don't know exactly what it means when that goes low.


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While she seems to be less achy in the joints since starting doxy, she's still not 100%. And her increased spookiness hasn't dissipated either. Just today, she got really freaked out by a noise on her walk. While this isn't entirely abnormal for her, I wonder if it's significant because of the positive Lyme test. Perhaps the dosage isn't high enough.

Typically you see a quick response to doxy, but all symptoms are slow to resolve.


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Or maybe I'm just grasping at straws. I don't know. I know you only get one chance to treat it the first time. I would definitely feel better hitting it hard. I just don't know if I can convince my vet that it would be a good idea. I am going to try, though.

To be honest, I don't know what the optimal treatment for Lyme is. I don't know if it's more important to treat for 6-8 weeks initially (rather than 28 days) or to treat at the higher dose, or if they are equally important. I just am not sure with Lyme. I always finished off each round of abx with Indy with a round of panacur since she didn't tolerate flagyl, as a hope that it helped. I used a fair amount of over the counter abx. You have a few weeks to think about what you are seeing and what you want to do.

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At least her gut is fine. She finally pooped again today and it was picture-perfect like usual. Usual as of late anyway. smile No problems with doxy at least.

This is great news!


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #209730
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Picture perfect poop. Interesting concept. I think only a person who has a dog with digestive issues can fully understand this. smile

Glad to hear she is doing okay. Continued good thoughts for a successful treatment.


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Talked to our vet today. She thanked me for dropping off the printout and asked how Risa was doing. (She's doing well. Joints seem less achy; she is jumping over my legs into bed at night instead of on top of them. Still not 100% and still a little more spooky than usual.) Then we got into the meat of the conversation.

The protocol she follows is the one recommended by Dr. Goldstein at Cornell University (5mg/lb per day for 30 days). She has done this with many dogs and, when they are re-checked at 6 months, they are perfectly fine. She doesn't feel that Risa's low WBC numbers would affect her ability to fight off the Lyme infection and she's never seen any correlation between the two.

While she is perfectly willing to prescribe a double dose and/or an extended dose for Risa, she doesn't feel it is necessary. She is also concerned that, by doing a longer treatment, it could hurt the efficacy of the drug in the long run should Risa need it again. She also mentioned that no internal medicine doctors can agree on what is a proper treatment for Lyme. I agreed as I have certainly found that to be the case in my minimal research. I also mentioned that I understood no matter what I do, the potential for a relapse is always there.

Fortunately, she seems to be willing to increase the dosage or the duration if that's what I want even if she doesn't think it's necessary. But I'm unsure what I'm going to do. I basically told her I am going to wait and see. As Risa approaches the end of her doxy treatment, I am going to evaluate how she's doing and go from there. (I will also continue to do some research and educate myself.) If I feel it's warranted, I may ask for an additional month of doxy. But, for now, I'm sticking with what has been prescribed.

No matter what I do, I cannot know the outcome. I don't know if Risa will ever experience chronic issues related to Lyme. I don't know if changing the dose or giving it longer will make any difference. And that's the thing that is the most frustrating. No one knows. Lyme is just so tricky. It seems the only things people can agree on are: it comes from ticks, it's treated with doxycycline, it can create chronic problems, and it never goes away. frown I wish Risa had easier to treat illnesses. Not these things that have no standard, agreed-upon treatments.

So I wait and hope. I will discuss with her TCVM vet the positive Lyme test and see if she has any recommendations from the holistic side as well (she's been such a great help with Risa's gut!) At least Risa seems to be feeling better. Though she's not happy that dinner got pushed back 3 hours! (So that I can give her the doxy every 12 hours without waking up before dawn.)

(Random thought: should this be moved to the Health Section since it's really more about Lyme disease now than finding a tick?)

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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #209979
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Originally Posted By: DancingCavy
While she is perfectly willing to prescribe a double dose and/or an extended dose for Risa....

I would take her up on this. As you said, you only get one chance to treat the first time.


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I basically told her I am going to wait and see. As Risa approaches the end of her doxy treatment, I am going to evaluate how she's doing and go from there.

You have no way of determining how effective the treatment was until 6 months after you are done.


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No matter what I do, I cannot know the outcome. I don't know if Risa will ever experience chronic issues related to Lyme. I don't know if changing the dose or giving it longer will make any difference.

No, but, you decrease the odds that she will develop more or earlier arthritis. You decrease the odds that it silently goes into the nervous system. You decrease the odds that it creates a subclinical kidney issue. This isn't as much about now, but trying to avoid the things later that will no longer be associated with lyme because they will be down the road where the tests may not show up positive then.


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(Random thought: should this be moved to the Health Section since it's really more about Lyme disease now than finding a tick?)

done smile


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: MaxaLisa] #210039
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I know. I know all this. And I'm leaning towards extending the dose when we hit the end of February. Just in case.

Still, there is no way of knowing whether that will change things or not. This sucks.


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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #210547
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I am feeling paranoid about my dog. Which is never a good thing. I think I may make an appointment for her with our TCVM vet early next week to talk to her about what's going on, have her evaluate Risa, and maybe do some acupuncture/aquapuncture.

I'm also planning on sending a letter to our veterinary hospital because I feel this issue needs to be addressed so that it's less likely another owner might find themselves in this position. This is my letter so far. . .thoughts?? (Should I mention my vet by name in it? I mean, it's not like they can't find out who I spoke with by looking in my chart anyway.)

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Dear Doctors and Staff:

On December 10, 2011, I found a tick on my dog. That Monday, I brought the tick in to the hospital to have it analyzed but I was told that you no longer sent ticks out to identify if they're carrying any tick-borne diseases. The receptionist informed me that we could test Risa in 6 weeks to see if she had contracted anything from the tick.

I brought Risa in on January 23rd to have the blood draw done for the tick test. I spoke to the technician about the tick I found on her and I even brought the tick along with me. She identified it as a deer tick though one that was not fully engorged. Risa had her blood drawn and we returned home. Shortly thereafter, I received a call from your hospital telling me the test was negative but also inquiring as to why I had a heartworm/tick test run on Risa since she just had one done in July. I was a bit shocked that the reason for our visit had not been recorded in our chart and informed the person I was speaking to about the tick I found on Risa 6 weeks earlier. It was then that she mentioned one of the technicians who looked at Risa's Snap test thought they saw a small amount of dye on the Lyme portion of the test. After further inquiry, I learned that 3 technicians and our doctor had looked at the test. Only one thought they saw a possible positive test result for Lyme. I had recently noticed some joint discomfort in Risa, which I knew to be a sign of Lyme disease, and expressed my concern over the test results. I was told we could do a more sensitive retest in 4 weeks. But this didn't sit well with me.

I spoke to some friends and did some research online where I discovered on Idexx's website that even a slight hint of dye in one of the test regions indicates a positive result. I was very concerned and left a message to speak with our doctor. When I did get a chance to talk to her, I ultimately decided to redo the Snap test and have it sent to Idexx so that they could run the C6 if Risa was indeed Lyme positive.

When I brought Risa in for the second blood draw on January 26, there was some confusion as to what I wanted done. I explained what I was there for when the technician arrived and, when I was handed the receipt, I was being charged for the C6 only. Not the Snap test being sent to Idexx which I had discussed with our doctor. I mentioned it to the receptionist and the technician and we got things straightened out. I assumed, having spoken to our doctor the day before, that it would have been written in the file where it could have been easily referenced.

Late Friday, January 27, I received a phone call stating that Risa had tested positive for Lyme disease on the test sent away to Idexx. Doxycycline was set up for her and she started taking it Saturday evening, January 28.

This experience has left me very disappointed in the quality of care we've received. I am left wondering, if the first Snap test had been Risa's annual one, if we would have been informed of the slight dye indication at all. After all, I know it's hospital policy that only positive results get phone calls. So it's entirely possible that this issue could have gone completely undiagnosed. I hate to think of what may have happened had I not insisted on a retest. Lyme can be a tricky disease and can even be fatal.

I wrote this letter to inform you of my displeasure and in the hopes that you might all learn from this. Since I used to work alongside many of you, I know you are a dedicated group of people who truly care about the patients you see.


I think the conclusion needs some work but I'm unsure what to say. I don't want to be too accusatory but I think it's clear they need to be more careful!

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Re: SPOON! The Tick [Re: DancingCavy] #210574
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it's not like they can't find out who I spoke with by looking in my chart anyway.)
-- well if they didnt bother to write that down either then they wouldnt be ale to research it. this sounds like my vet- are you sure you are not in Napa?


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