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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: LJsMom] #192626
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Wow, it's been almost a year already??? Kind of makes me wonder about people who complain about having fosters for just a couple mon- Um, never mind. smile


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Mario's eyes look like he wants to scream "You're not the boss of me!!!"

Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: Furonthefloor] #192664
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Mario is just the best... wub He even looks like he's tip-toeing in the picture!!


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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: Kris] #193163
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Miss Mila - wub

You are one beautiful dame.


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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: PositiveDog] #193175
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Heehehehee, you're not the boss of me. Yes! He would never say it but in his head he's trying to get the guts to let it out. Then, sigh, never mind. smile

Yep, almost a year. And she's not a fit with most of the group (she's a happy girl in a Girl, Interrupted household) so it's not as easy as a pup but she is so worth it. I hear what you are saying though! laugh I guess I like fostering for BDBH (and Dylan's rescue too) because they understand and let fosters know they may have a dog a lot longer than you might think, and that's okay. Remember, I was going to take a break, so she's not taking another dog's place. rofl Some break! smile

She is a bouncy beautiful and big hearted girl. Things are moving forward (slow but moving) in the adoption realm, which is fine with all involved - all expected, timeline wise, and gives me time to take care of her carpal splints!

Thanks everyone!

Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #193176
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Jean, tell me more about the splints? Max is having problems on that one wrist - not sure if it's bothering him, but it looks like it should be.


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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: MaxaLisa] #193218
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When she went to Thera-Vet they recommended them due to the extreme breakdown of her wrists - her ligaments are stretched and there is no way to tighten a ligament (there is one surgical procedure I guess that my one vet talked about just to dismiss it - not an option). So the idea is to prevent them from getting any looser, just when she's playing or walking, not all the time - when there's some impact. We were going back there to get her measured and she was dx with HW disease so that was that! I decided just to do this at my vet office because it's a shorter ride and probably cheaper all around.

http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/14_3/features/Orthopedic-Devices-For-Dogs_20211-1.html
"Dr. McCauley likes the Carpal Wraps because they do not stop the dog from using the wrist (immobilization makes the joint weaker) but work by preventing the wrist from hyper-extending (which is what causes pain). She recommends dogs wear them on walks or when playing or running around. Suggested retail price: $21 (each)."
I think these are it: http://www.canineicer.com/order/product/index.htm (scroll down past the icers)

I think that part is the key - that if you do it wrong, you can make the leg worse. And I think that depends on the why of the weakness. Like I ruptured my ACL way back and I asked the PT if it would help to wrap the knee for stability and he said not for what my problem was - I would be making it worse in the long run. But you see other injuries, they wrap. I like that Thera-vet is a PT vet.

So I am going to be taking/sending/faxing all of this over to my vet office before we do the measuring.

Oh, I think these are the ones that Thera-vet uses: http://www.therapaw.com/ They look to be closer to $50 per. I figure my vets can take a look and see which will work better for her, or just go with this one if they can.

ETA - glad you asked so that I had to get this all written out and find those links!

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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #193254
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I want max to keep using it, but we've done a lot of walking this term and it hasn't really improved much. It does get worse with fatigue, and if he tries to trot, he often stumbles on it.

Do keep us posted on it - I might try something like this for Max. Maybe this is why his shoulder keeps hurting him too. Can't wait to get at my 'puter and take a good look at those links. Thanks a super bunch!


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: MaxaLisa] #193269
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Jean, in case it's helpful, here's Natalie's/Sasha's thread:
http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbt...a_nee#Post29204

I think Max would need that firmer support one, he's just going to get worse. I emailed them a question about sizing. Let me know what's going on with Mila!

The $30 shipping fee made me shocked until I saw the drop down menu had better options smile

I think this is the rigid splint that natalie used, different type of thing than we are looking at:
http://www.orthovet.com/storefront.html?...13&vmcchk=1
Wow, some of these get really fancy, the rigid ones:
http://www.animalorthocare.com/carpalbrace/


We no longer have a PT person around here, so this is something I will try on my own.

While I'm looking, found these:
http://www.dogleggs.com/carpal/

Here are some nice pics of the lighter one at therapaw:
http://www.jorvet.com/pdf/Literature/carpo_fles_dorsi_flex_wraps.pdf
Cheapest price here it seems: http://scoutshouse.com/store/index.php?cPath=74&main_page=product_info&products_id=252

Larger images for the therapaw ones:
http://scoutshouse.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=304
http://scoutshouse.com/store/images/CarpoFlex-033243.jpg
http://scoutshouse.com/store/images/CarpoFlexX-033247%20(Medium).jpg


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: MaxaLisa] #193578
11/14/11 04:45 PM
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I've used an OrthoVet Carpal Splint

http://www.orthovet.com/storefront.html?...13&vmcchk=1

then transitioned to a thera-paw Carpo-Flex X

http://www.therapaw.com/carpo-flex-x-2.aspx

Both of the braces worked very well for what we needed. My vet measured Sasha and sent off for a custom fit one, but neither was that expensive.

What I liked about the carpo-flex x brace is that it comes with 3 sturdier velco support 'patches'. You can cross them, remove them or just use 1 or 2- makes the brace customizable for the dog and situation.

Sasha still wears this brace when we hike in the woods as she will always have the bone chip that can cause her discomfort after long periods of being active- so I use the brace to minimize the moving of the chip.

I give both of them a big thumbs up! thumbup


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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: Natalie559] #193773
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I was wondering how the carpo flex could have a range of a support, that is great to know.

I guess the carpo was custom made too?
I was looking at the carpo pre-made sizes. Max's leg circ is 5" and they said that the 5.75" should work, unless the leg tends to swell. The other is much larger, and I'm not sure that it would fit well.

Max is always at the "edge" of sizes, no fair!


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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: MaxaLisa] #194124
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I sent the two websites I have to the vet and am taking Mila over tomorrow for her fitting. Since Thera-vet recommended the Therapaw one I am guessing that will be the one we pick, but I do like that WDJ liked the other.

I have to ask - her pasterns have already dropped - so I want to make sure we don't do anything that will make things worse. I guess immobilizing them would do that! I think I have pics of her front legs in the beginning of the thread. They got worse with the crate rest but are improving.

I'll try to take some phone pics if I can. I hope she is a good girl so that I can!

Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #194153
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I'm thinking that the WDJ one isn't going to provide enough support. I ordered one of those to try, since he can use it on his stronger wrist if he needs it. I suspect that the bad wrist needs the therapaw one since his pastern is down too....just worried about sizing. I think his squirrel stalking has helped strengthen it, but it's not going to get better either frown

Here's Mila wrist picture post:
http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/110447/Re_When_you_can_t_help#Post110447


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: MaxaLisa] #194179
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Announcement time! In the very near future, Miss Mila Monster will be bossing around my Steely-man! Notice the hearts in his pupils and front paws!



Steel passed inspection by Matsi earlier this week. She gave him a little snarl, but Steel was a gentlemen and did not reciprocate.

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Many thanks to the home visit team (Sarah, Chip, Donna, Matsi, and Duke)! A big thank you to Donna for the beautiful pictures!

We are extremely excited!


Joanne

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Miss Mila Monster (GSD) 4-14-02

Waiting at the bridge:
Lady Jane Cobb (GSD - age 15)
Sasha (Siberian Husky - age 13)
Niko (Siberian Husky - age 14)
Wooly Bear (Siberian Husky - age 13)
Re: Mila, Grand Old Dame [Re: LJsMom] #194184
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Wait-does this mean a new courtship?

Could any female in her later years want more than to spend them with that blue-eyed, distinguished gentleman?

Great job, Joanne.

Mary Jane

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