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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: JakodaCD OA] #190503
10/28/11 06:59 PM
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I'm getting ready to change/add to Rosa's joint supplement, which is currently Glycoflex 3. She has been on it since she was initially diagnosed, so since early 2010 or thereabouts. With her funky elbow issue, I decided maybe she needs more than we are giving her. I have read this thread, plus taking info from the thread I have posted about Rosa's elbows, and come up with some ideas I'd like to run by everyone. I also want to add a multivitamin since we are feeding one meal a day (out of three meals) as a home cooked meal of chicken and eggs.

This is Don's work-up of what I suggested we do. And he added Niko on there since it couldn't hurt him to be on a joint supplement either, even though his hips and elbows are fine.




I didn't add any Vitamin C to the mix since two of the joint supplements already have Vitamin C in them. So you can see if we gave all of it to both dogs, it would cost us around $1000 a year, which is kind of shocking. I'd appreciate some feedback on this, what can I omit to reduce the cost a bit? Does it make sense to put Niko on the same supplements that Rosa is getting?

Thanks for any opinions!!!


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Leah
Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: Good_Karma] #190506
10/28/11 07:56 PM
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The amount of C she's getting in her supplements isn't at a therapeutic level. I give 2200mg/day of Ester C in addition to what's in his supplements.

I have read so many articles about multivitamins not being worth it that I've stopped using them for myself or my animals. Instead I supplement with fresh veggies (dark leafy greens mostly). I puree them and toss them in the food.

I haven't added up the amount I spend on Rafi's supplements lately but it is a lot. I don't worry about the cost though because so far I've avoided having to get him surgery on his hip(s).

He currently gets the following per day:

3 scoops Springtime Inc. Longevity
4 Springtime Inc. Joint Health tabs
2200mg Ester C
1.5 tabs Only Natural Pet Get up and Go
2 gel caps Springtime Inc. Omega 3-6-9


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: BowWowMeow] #190523
10/28/11 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: BowWowMeow
I have read so many articles about multivitamins not being worth it that I've stopped using them for myself or my animals.

I wholeheartedly concur.


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: GrandJan] #190636
10/29/11 11:30 AM
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Thanks!


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: Good_Karma] #190712
10/29/11 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Good_Karma
I'm getting ready to change/add to Rosa's joint supplement, which is currently Glycoflex 3. She has been on it since she was initially diagnosed, so since early 2010 or thereabouts. With her funky elbow issue, I decided maybe she needs more than we are giving her. I have read this thread, plus taking info from the thread I have posted about Rosa's elbows, and come up with some ideas I'd like to run by everyone. I also want to add a multivitamin since we are feeding one meal a day (out of three meals) as a home cooked meal of chicken and eggs.

This is Don's work-up of what I suggested we do. And he added Niko on there since it couldn't hurt him to be on a joint supplement either, even though his hips and elbows are fine.




I didn't add any Vitamin C to the mix since two of the joint supplements already have Vitamin C in them. So you can see if we gave all of it to both dogs, it would cost us around $1000 a year, which is kind of shocking. I'd appreciate some feedback on this, what can I omit to reduce the cost a bit? Does it make sense to put Niko on the same supplements that Rosa is getting?

Thanks for any opinions!!!



Yes, dogs are expensive shocked I don't add up things here unless I absolutely have to, specifically for that reason...I don't want to know, and everything I add or do is for a specific reason. I think any new dog owner should be shown a lot of these costs though!!

I have always liked combining a Cosequin product with a Glycoflex product - the former is very precise and pure, the latter is more of a whole food supplement. I used to use the GF600 for Indy with regular Cosamin (human version, buy it at Costco on sale). She couldn't tolerate the other extras.

I do like adding HA to the mix, but the jointagen seems to have a lot of overlap. You might get away with a dedicated HA product like this: http://www.vitacost.com/Vitacost-Hyaluro...ng-120-Capsules . I had to use a different one, since the BioCell HA products are all chicken based.

If there isn't a problem with the joints, I think you can get away with the recommended amount, maybe even a little less. If there are significant problems, you often have to go higher than the recommended dosages.

I am a big believer in a daily multivitamin, for dogs on kibble, and also on a homeprepared diet.


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: MaxaLisa] #200529
12/20/11 08:51 PM
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The Ester-C you guys are giving is just the pills you buy at Walgreens? So if I get the 1000mg, I should give 2 pills per day?

He's currently getting the Annamet Endure which has
Green Lipped Mussel 1000mg
Glucosamine 1000mg
Chondroitin 700mg
Vitamin C 500mg
Psyllium husk 3000mg

Should I go ahead and add the Ester-C?


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: Emoore] #206190
01/17/12 11:21 PM
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Emoore, I don't think I ever saw your last post here. Did you ever add the vitamin C?

This is the brand that Mom uses: http://www.ester-c.com/ and I've seen it at places like Walgreens and Walmart, though I get it for her in capsules at Costco. For the dogs, I've always used sodium ascorbate.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: MaxaLisa] #206196
01/17/12 11:41 PM
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Lisa, can we get a DM sticky and add this thread to it?


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Re: Joint/Arthritis Supplements [Re: arycrest] #206199
01/17/12 11:47 PM
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Hi Gayle, We have one in the Health Index. This sticky will be moved there too, I just forgot about it blush

Here's the DM sticky:
http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbt...erati#Post48612

It's with skeletal conditions, since many vets will just diagnose DM when it's other things.


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