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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: arycrest] #182523
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Lisa I am so happy to hear that Max got to have a nice 3/4 mile walk with minimal bleeding.

That is a huge improvement.


Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #182557
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Oh Lisa I am so sorry you and Max are so frustrated hugging


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: bianca] #182738
09/21/11 12:24 AM
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whistling That's me whistling for Max - or it would be if I could whistle.

Just wanted to give him a hug and wondering if was a good day for both of you. crossedfingers


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Bennie the 12 1/2% GSD 02/2013

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: PositiveDog] #182963
09/22/11 01:46 AM
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Today Max had his first solo bleed while I was away. I don't know how he managed it, but the large majority of mess was on washable surface, and there wasn't a lot of blood. I just feel really bad that he was here alone having to deal with it. But very happy at the outcome, this time.

My grand experiment failed, at least for now. What I was doing seemed to help the nose, but it actually suppresses cortisol, which is not good. I may still be able to play a bit, I dunno.
Still experimenting, hoping to trip over something useful. I'll just keep plugging away over here...


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa] #182977
09/22/11 02:19 AM
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Wish I could help more! Remy says "Max, get better soon! "


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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: unloader] #182986
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Thank you Michael smile

Maxwell says "Thanks Remy, I know you know, being sick sucks!". gsdsit


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa] #183001
09/22/11 03:45 AM
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Cleaning up some of the blood from the kitchen, found this card stashed away near the fridge. One of the first outings that Max and I did together after Indy died, was to an outdoor "dog fair" at a local spiritual center, and, while I'm not very religious (spiritual yes, religious no), I got us blessed there too....this was the blessing that was printed on the card I found tonight...

Quote:
My animal companion is a glorious expression of the Divine. I am committed to the health and happiness of this beloved being whose life has been entrusted to me. I bless my loving companion and all animals on this special day of celebration, and on each and every day that we walk in grace, together.

gsdhalo


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa] #183005
09/22/11 04:03 AM
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I think it is appropriate that your found that again.

Lisa, please do not feel bad about Max having a little bleeding episode while you were gone. As long as it just a small amount I am sure he isn't even bothered by it.

I wish I had some Magic that I could send your way to help Max, but I will send you and Max some strength Vibes and Max some super healing vibes.


Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #183011
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Sorry, Lisa. I know how worrisome that must be but I would bet that Max handles it a lot better than you think. I have to leave Cleo often when she's sick (because she is has a couple of bad days every week) and she manages ok. Like Max she's a fighter. wub


Just you hang in there and keep your chin up, ok?


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Chama
Kai
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Massie
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: BowWowMeow] #183018
09/22/11 06:31 AM
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Wish there were something I could do to help you.


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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: arycrest] #183021
09/22/11 08:10 AM
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hugging Come-on Max stop worry your Mum please keep better NOW! smile


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Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: bianca] #183132
09/23/11 12:44 AM
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In the grand scheme of things, that bleed, could have been a lot worse, so that's a positive.

Ruth, when you use activated charcoal, if used on a regular basis, how far do you separate it from food and other meds? The standard two hours? If you do this, how many did you used to give Chama? There really isn't enough time to space out everything I want him to have in a day, if I want to continue working wink I know you know how that works Ruth, with Cleo catlapping

We have two options left. High dose doxy, or high dose steroids. I think the high dose steroids, are dangerous for him, and not the right thing, and was happy to hear that the internal medicine guy and I are on the same page on that. So.....I'm taking the leap, the nose is as good as it gets for right now, so I've started him on the high doxy dose as our last hurrah here. The only reason we haven't yet, is because of the nose bleeding. I think I can find some herbals that will lower the BP while his nose gets used to the higher dose, and the tramadol also has that effect to some degree, which I can use to make him feel better.

This near 100 degree heat at the end of Sept sure doesn't help sunburn

His bloodwork came back - abnormalities in all the glands - we already knew the adrenals, but also the thyroid, the liver, the pancreas.....so, have to do something, before things continue to get worse. They may get worse before they get better, but still hoping for that better part! He has perked up some on the doxy, but it hasn't been long enough to see really, and to see the effect on the nose - I am expecting some worse bleeding, but hoping that it will get better. He got better on the pred, and then continued to decline - a hallmark of inflammation caused by infection.

So.....good nose vibes, knowing there will be some more bleeding, but I'm hoping we can minimize it and get past this.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa] #183136
09/23/11 01:02 AM
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Ugh, so stressful. So sorry the blood work wasn't better. frown

I use charcoal for everyone around here (except Cleo). I actually do more like 45 minutes to an hour away from meds. I usually just give 1 for dogs unless it's an acute situation and then I give 2.


Ruth

Rafi, the german malaroo, age 9.5ish
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238

Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
...............
Warming my heart:
Queen Cleopatra
Chama
Kai
Basu
Massie
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: BowWowMeow] #183137
09/23/11 01:06 AM
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Thanks Ruth. I think one of the problems with liver is that things aren't moving through the digestive tract in a reasonable time, so toxins are building up, in spite of probiotics, etc. I'm going to try some charcoal to help decrease the "bad stuff".

Yeah, the bloodwork, sucks. Still hopeful while we have a last shot at this.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa] #183152
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I promise you that we can do hope.

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