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Re: What is this?? [Re: PositiveDog] #172844
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You want to get that shaved and dried ASAP. If it's at/near the tail and continues to spread, you do NOT want to end up with anal/anal gland issues on top of it. The spot should be shaved, cleaned, and then dried. Often vets give antibiotics and steroids. I usually avoid both but when Coke had a huge spot by his butt I gave him the drugs, didn't want the spot to have any chance of spreading to his anal area.

If you absolutely can't get to a vet, maybe try a groomer? You need to get the hair away from that area so it can be kept clean and dry. Also make sure the dog can't lick/scratch it. If you can't find a vet or groomer, then cut as much hair off as possible, wash the spot with water and mild soap, pat it dry, and keep the dog from touching it. Personally I wouldn't and don't use hydrogen peroxide on any open wound (dog or human) as it eats away at heeling skin and is overkill for disinfecting. I just use a warm compress and then gently wash the area with warm water and a tiny bit if antibacterial dish soap.

This was Coke's last hotspot, the one that I did treat with the medications, first when I trimmed and cleaned the area and then after the vet shaved it.



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Re: What is this?? [Re: Liesje] #172854
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I personally think seeing a vet for one hot spot is a bit much. When Penny gets a spot, she has flea allergy, I use a flea comb to get the chewed bits of fur off from around the spot and the comb helps me to part her fur so I can get a good view of the spot. Then I use cotton balls and hydrogen peroxide to clean the gunk off, only once though b/c as Liesje mentioned it can damage the healing skin. Then I sprinkle a good amount of gold bond medicated powder on the area and pat it in/on. Repeat the gold bond powder as necessary and as long as the dog doesn't rechew the area it will be healed within a few days.

There have been a few spots that I had a really hard time getting Penny to leave alone and for those times the vet gave me a topical steroid liquid that would help with the itch. I rarely use this though.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: Natalie559] #172855
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Raya had a hot spot on her cheek. I did go to the Vet because I had never seen one on the face before. New twist, the Vet gave me some Tramadol. My Vet feels that a lot of the chewing on the spot after it blows up is nerve pain because there are a lot of nerve ending just below the skin.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #172867
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Its almost in thee same spot at yours liesje but on both sides. He is still itchy all over. I think I will try cuutting the fur away and just washing is away seeing what I can do here, but I think ill still take him to the vet to see if their are more spots or so they can give me some meds. He is not really chewing the fur away though.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint] #172872
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Vet/no vet, depends on the dog and the spot. We took Coke in for that last one because it doubled in size very quickly and showed no signs of slowing down and was moving down the base of the tail towards the anus. I have a friend whose dog had anal infection issues and was not about to deal with that! I don't have a clippers that I can trim him with, so even if we just go in to get the area trimmed that is worth it to me (we got a clippers from a friend and it does not cut through Coke's coat!). It cost about the same for me to see my vet than go to a groomer for help with the trim. Also that last one was nasty. The area was very inflamed, it was weeping constantly, smelled bad. Coke is a huge baby when it comes to any amount of pain and my DH is kind of a baby as far as helping me out, so it's easier for me to take him to the vet where they can help me trim and clean the area. I can't do it alone b/c the dog fights (not biting but struggling and crying). I'm not scared of him but he's huge, bigger than my GSDs, so I can't hold and trim at the same time. His other spots I did not medicate, just got them trimmed and then kept them dry and clean on my own. I've never tried the Gold Bond since each time as soon as he gets properly trimmed the spot seems to stop spreading and dry up, but I've heard it recommended many times.

Re: What is this?? [Re: Liesje] #172873
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Is it possible that he is having a reaching to the flea shampoo? With the other spots you are saying it might be a reaction to the shampoo.

I would do a good wet and rise down with clear water. Dry, trim the hair where the sore(s) are weeping/draining.

Lakota is the the king of hot spots in this house. I just try to keep him from chewing on them, trim the hair. Next time I an going to try the Vetericyn, I have some in the house now.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: Liesje] #172874
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I don't think its the shampoo, because he had the spots before I starrted using it. He never itcched until I came home from a friends who's cats had fleas really bad. That's when he started shaking his leg out of no where. I am trying to find the scissors to trim it with.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint] #172876
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Any type of scissors will do, as long as they are sharp enough.

Max gets an annual hotspot in the same spot every year. No explanation. I clean it with peroxide and use aloe vera. With him, he also needs a chiropractic adjustment...seems to be related to increased activity and that bad back of his. Scullcap is a great herb if it's all twitchy.

It really sounds flea related looking at the history of everything. Definitely need to get the fleas taken care of, get the hotspot cleaned up, and make sure it doesn't get infected.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172888
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I will do my best to clean it up. He will be going to the vet on Monday at 2pm.


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R.I.P- Smokey my GSD/Husky. You are my hero, my heart, my soul and you will forever remain in my heart."Run like the wind"






Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172889
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Quote:
I personally think seeing a vet for one hot spot is a bit much.


I don't go to the vet with every hot spot, either since I now know what they are and can usually stop them before they get bad.

Sometimes you can't do that - they grow too fast and get infected too easily.

The way frillant described the spots, and looking at the pictures, it does look like there is some infection.

That is why I am saying go to the vet for this one.

If Buddy gets another one as bad as the last (it was on the stump of his amputated leg, poor boy) I will have them use cold laser therapy on it. That is supposed to be a great treatment for hot spots.

Frillant - I see you are taking Smoky to the vet Moday. It may start to clear up and get dry after you remove the hair and keep it clean and treated. You can always cancel if it does.

Good luck and thanks for finding it and asking so quickly. I remember being terrified the first time I saw one. I had never had a dog with a hot spot before. Now I don't worry so much about them.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: PositiveDog] #172893
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
I don't go to the vet with every hot spot, either since I now know what they are and can usually stop them before they get bad.

Sometimes you can't do that - they grow too fast and get infected too easily.

The way frillant described the spots, and looking at the pictures, it does look like there is some infection.

That is why I am saying go to the vet for this one.


Ditto this.



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If Buddy gets another one as bad as the last (it was on the stump of his amputated leg, poor boy) I will have them use cold laser therapy on it. That is supposed to be a great treatment for hot spots.

I think it is too. Max is kinda "different"...the chiro was experimenting with the laser around his bad SI joint, and it actually caused a hotspot! I think Max just has a really goofy nervous system, and he gets a type of neuropathy that causes these things in him. The chiropractor and the red light acupuncture unit I have here are great for his hotspots, so I would think that for a normal dog, the cold laser would work really well.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172903
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I will let you know how it goes. Now that I know what hot spot is for now on ill do it myself. I do agree it does look infected. Looks like the total will be around 110. The office visit is $50 right there. He is itching everywhere though, so we will see what they say. I needed a vet anyway, because he will need his heartgaurd soon. Smokey has never had anything like this. He has went a couple times because he had kennel cough a couple times and phnemonia once and was coughing up blood and he has been a bunch for different medications for his arthrits in his left elbow, but nothing like this. He has never had fleas or mites or anything. This is so weird.

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Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint] #173174
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I'm glad I have an apt and have helped a little my self. It is spreading up his back and closer to his butt. I have no way from stopping him from licking and biteing it.


Chief- My rescue GSD that has taught me so much. I love you so much and get closer to you everyday.

R.I.P- Smokey my GSD/Husky. You are my hero, my heart, my soul and you will forever remain in my heart."Run like the wind"






Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint] #173193
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If he is lying down, you can throw a towel over his but to help deter him, but it's very uncomfortable for them. This is what I use the herb scullcap for, it relaxes that nerve stuff some.

If you have benadryl in the house, *it might* help, just to calm him a bit, until you get to the vet. It won't help with the cause of any of this, but just might help him feel a little bit better.


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Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa] #173363
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I am very excited to get to the vet. To find out if indeed its hot spot and to make my poor baby feel better. He is my world.


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R.I.P- Smokey my GSD/Husky. You are my hero, my heart, my soul and you will forever remain in my heart."Run like the wind"






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