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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172719
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
I want him better now!


Boy, do I know what you mean!

It sounds like you are beginning to slow whatever disease process is there-which would truly be amazing.

It's so hard to be patient.

take care,
MJ

Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Mary Jane] #172721
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I hope that I am MJ, it's so elusive.....


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172722
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Oh, Jean, I emailed Niels Gruetzner, do you remember him? The researcher at Texas A&M that was studying IgA in GSDs? He wants me to send in a follow-up blood sample. I wish he would have said that *before* I paid for the B-12/folate, but he was out of the country.

He also wants to run the usual TLI and also a SpecCL (pancreas?).

So, if a dog has been given digestive enzymes for awhile, won't that affect the TLI, even with the 12 hour fast?


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172728
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Will pancreatic enzyme supplementation affect the TLI results?

No. The TLI assays are absolutely species specific. Most pancreatic supplements are made from porcine or bovine pancreatic tissue and thus are not detected by our TLI assays. Furthermore, intact pancreatic enzymes are not absorbed across the intestine to any significant extent and so would not interfere with the TLI assay even if there were some cross-reactivity between different species.

http://vetmed.tamu.edu/gilab/service/faq#enzymesupplementation


Joanne

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: LJsMom] #172877
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That's really good to know Joanne! I even asked the internal medicine guy and he gave me the wrong answer.....how many times must I re-learn to double check everything?

I have made some changes to his antibiotics and supplements. I found a great site for Addison's in humans where I am learning a lot about timing the pred, and other things.

He is now much more comfortable at rest - movement or excitement still tough. I did take him for a walk around the block last night, and it took about 40-50 minutes for him to get into a calm breathing pattern. I'm just not sure if I should be doing that. He needs that to, uh, fully eliminate, and he's just going a bit stir crazy, and his joints need the movement too. I guess I will just have to see how he is doing that day.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172886
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Lisa;

It sounds like you are moving forward again with Max. I hope the new studies and testing bring you good news.


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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: PositiveDog] #172985
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Thank you Bonnie, I hope so too!


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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #172993
08/13/11 04:54 AM
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It does sound like progress! Hope this is an upward trend that continues - you both need that! In my thoughts... hugging


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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Kris] #173007
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Would it be practical to maybe take a couple of shorter walks instead?

So happy to hear something is starting to work. hugging hugging one for each of you.


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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: bianca] #173043
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I am just going to keep posting this. crossedfingers because there is no knock wood thingy.

ETA - I do remember him! He was very nice - I emailed him about Nina's situation and he was helpful and kind. A good person to keep in touch with Lisa!

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #173067
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Steps forward, steps backward, I lost count which direction we are headed!

Rough night. Gave him the first dose of his homeopathic remedy last night, I don't know if that's related, might be an aggravation, it might be a rough several days if that's what it is.

Short walks now are about 4 or 5 houses down the block and back,,,,,sucks for both of us.

Tuesday is his next vit C infusion....I'll keep messing with things here I guess.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #173075
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So I looked at my notes, and all this stuff started while he was on tylan and his other abx, so tylan is not the answer.

I'm thinking that his red belly, for which I have tried *everything* to alter, is this blood vessel dilation issue, much like rosacea. So....I think I have some sort of physical measurement with which to mark progress (please, let us have some progress to mark!)

I am going to work flagyl in to the mix somehow, and see what that does. As I mentioned here: http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/173068/Flagyl_Dosage.html#Post173068 There are some things that only flagyl does....it's also used for some tick diseases.

I just don't feel like we are doing anything different yet. We have the vit C infusions, which should be supportive, the prednisolone to replace the cortisone, but that's kinda it. So, on to the next part of the experiment I guess.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa] #173131
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Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Barb E] #173136
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I so hope that your various vets can help you Lisa. It just seems terrible that you are basically left to figure this out on your own hugging


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Cooper GSD (The Gremlin) 19/10/11
Texas - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free sweet Teppie
Paris - Tabby cat (Feb 1996-2013) Run free my beautiful girl.
Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: bianca] #173197
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Thank you Barb and bianca hugging

I think I walked off that edge of the cliff when I put together his fistula protocol. Something, I'm pretty sure, that no vet would have put together, because it defies sensibilities. A pet owner can do things that a vet fears repercussions from.

And now we are in a bit of a free fall I guess.

I see in my notes, that I was asking the vets about this breathing issue as far back as 10/2010, the red belly first noticed 3/2010; these are slow progressive processes I guess. There are so many different interpretations....how many on this forum have GSDs that pant heavily at times? That's what the vet was hearing when I talked of this, they weren't hearing the part that this really wasn't normal type panting, and I was unable to adequately describe it. The TCM vets have their own different interpretations. No one believed me, I couldn't express it well, and I had no idea something like this could be happening.

If this is mostly infection induced, and IF we can find the right combination that gets him better, I hope that he can recover with not too much damage. I just don't know if he will recover. For years, I have been arguing he has infection induced inflammation, the vets have all dismissed that and argued it's all autoimmune (clearly not *all* autoimmune!). But it seems it's probably both, mixed with the adrenal insufficiency (low cortisol does a lot of bad things!), I guess I'm lucky that he's still here.

IF ( crossedfingers ) the flagyl works, I think I need a follow-up to the internal medicine guy, because I don't know what to do with the antibiotics as the next step. I think I'm max'ed out (no pun intended!) with my knowledge there. I think I know the next step, but it's scary.

I did find a shorter block to walk around for now, last night wasn't terrible, and today he is resting well, so things could be a lot worse I guess, and I don't quite yet feel like we are at the end of the rope. I am *really* hoping to have some good news at some point to post, with all these well wishes....I guess the good news for now, and it is good, is that he is still here, loves eating, still tries to pick up a ball now and again.


MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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