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Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Malinois16] #164800
06/29/11 08:44 PM
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I like Ruth's appraoch to this and I hadu forgotten pumpkin. I think Pumpkin is one of the best foods out there. It acts as an aid to relieve constipation and also will firm up gooey pooey. It is wonderful stuff and all of my dogs and cats get some regularly.


Kathy

PTE,AC,URO3,AG2,UCD Xtra!Xtra! v. TeMar CDX,GN,RE,CGC,TC,HIC, Bh "Havoc" 6/4/07
PAM, URO3, UCD, UACH Tidmores Rising Star Lydia "Mayhem" CD,BN,RE,AX,AJP,OFP,P1J,CA,DN,HT,TKN,TC,CGCA 4/4/12

Lucky, Wolf, Max, Kayos - gone not forgotten. gsdhalo
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164802
06/29/11 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Diogy Pup
There was a 3 day break in between his second round of pills and his poo was half solid, I was so ecstatic!


I sense that you will a future member of the dancing poop banana club! poop


Laura Holder, CPDT-KA

The Fur-Kids:
Fanny, GSD, Rescued 2002
DOB circa December 1999
Shylo's "Oscar" Million, CGC
DOB 11/3/2009

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Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Kayos] #164805
06/29/11 09:09 PM
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I would stay away from any Wal-Mart brand supplements.

A bland diet gives a stressed gut time to heal.

Unfortunately I've had about 25 years of experience dealing with doggie intestinal issues and each one was a little different in terms of sorting out but eventually we got there. Hang in there!


Ruth

Rafi, the german malaroo, age 9.5ish
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238

Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
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Queen Cleopatra
Chama
Kai
Basu
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Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: BowWowMeow] #164809
06/29/11 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: BowWowMeow
I would stay away from any Wal-Mart brand supplements.

A bland diet gives a stressed gut time to heal.

Unfortunately I've had about 25 years of experience dealing with doggie intestinal issues and each one was a little different in terms of sorting out but eventually we got there. Hang in there!


Listen to Ruth!!! She's a fantastic resource and helped me many, many, many times with Oscar with all his gut/butt issues! smile smile smile


Laura Holder, CPDT-KA

The Fur-Kids:
Fanny, GSD, Rescued 2002
DOB circa December 1999
Shylo's "Oscar" Million, CGC
DOB 11/3/2009

http://holistic-canine.blogspot.com/
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164810
06/29/11 09:38 PM
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Why? Walmart brand supplement is human grade and it contained the SAME units and ingredients as the one that costed 10 times as much. Worked for me. Plus mine was lactose free which is even better.

Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: BowWowMeow] #164812
06/29/11 09:44 PM
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When Sammy came out of the shelter, he had horrible poo and was itching like crazy. I had him tested (there is a holistic vet here who tests with the Biocom 2000: http://www.energetic-medicine.net/bicom.html) and we eliminated foods that showed as a problem - interestingly enough, beef and lamb and of course almost all grains. Prior to this he had been treated with both metro and tylan, but I didn't want to do that long term.

I don't remember now who recommended giving him L-Glutamine (it was either Ruth or Lisa from this forum), but that was our salvation, along with a good probiotic (I buy at the health food store), and a tablespoon of pumpkin. At one point, I tried backing off the L-Glutamine and his poops went right back to being mushy. In our case, I believe that's the key element that's keeping his gut healthy. This isn't the brand I buy, but it explains what L-Glutamine does: L-Glutamine

He eats grain free. We started with Natural Balance, but have switched to Taste of the Wild (salmon). I am pleased to say that his poos are perfect!!


Kris
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Samson, GSD, 10/13/07
Annabel, Keeshond, 4/21/11
Petie, Toy Poodle, 5/5/07
Kitties: Meezer, Bob, Mia and Dewey
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Kris] #164825
06/29/11 11:23 PM
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I have not heard anything bad about Walmart stuff but if I am going to do a probio I use the stuff you have to refrigerate from the health food store. The vet even recommended that, it has higher colonies.

On another subject I do use the Ester C from Walmart for Kayos.


Kathy

PTE,AC,URO3,AG2,UCD Xtra!Xtra! v. TeMar CDX,GN,RE,CGC,TC,HIC, Bh "Havoc" 6/4/07
PAM, URO3, UCD, UACH Tidmores Rising Star Lydia "Mayhem" CD,BN,RE,AX,AJP,OFP,P1J,CA,DN,HT,TKN,TC,CGCA 4/4/12

Lucky, Wolf, Max, Kayos - gone not forgotten. gsdhalo
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164827
06/29/11 11:26 PM
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The stuff I use contains 5 Billion active cells. That for me is plenty. But thats just me.

Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164832
06/29/11 11:35 PM
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Yes--forgot about l-glutamine. That is v. Important!


Ruth

Rafi, the german malaroo, age 9.5ish
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238

Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
...............
Warming my heart:
Queen Cleopatra
Chama
Kai
Basu
Massie
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Malinois16] #164833
06/29/11 11:35 PM
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Ask your vet for tylosin.

Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164835
06/29/11 11:39 PM
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My vet gave mine a shot of Tylosin and it did nothing. Not sure if it comes in pill or powder form.

Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Malinois16] #164849
06/30/11 01:37 AM
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Tylan powder is a treatment for SIBO and it needs to be continued for a good length of time. I think Tylosin is a form of Tylan.


Kathy

PTE,AC,URO3,AG2,UCD Xtra!Xtra! v. TeMar CDX,GN,RE,CGC,TC,HIC, Bh "Havoc" 6/4/07
PAM, URO3, UCD, UACH Tidmores Rising Star Lydia "Mayhem" CD,BN,RE,AX,AJP,OFP,P1J,CA,DN,HT,TKN,TC,CGCA 4/4/12

Lucky, Wolf, Max, Kayos - gone not forgotten. gsdhalo
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Kayos] #164856
06/30/11 01:58 AM
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I went and bought a probiotic and some pumpkin. I will let you all know how he is tomorrow. I had to spoon feed him cause he will just not finish his food. Thanks again for all the suggestions, I can't thank you all enough for the advise! I was way less stressed today just reading all your advice.

What are your thoughts on pet health insurance, does it cover all this stuff? Is it worth it? Does it cover prescriptions?


Diogy's Mom~
Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup] #164871
06/30/11 02:19 AM
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if you get it as an 8 week old pup yes its good. But now that you have had gut issues, insurance companies will try to use the pre existing route for any future gut issues you may have. They only cover things that happen after you purchase insurance. So if your dog has allergies before like in my case, anything allergy related (which can mean anything) after insurance they wont cover. Some do meds..some dont

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Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Malinois16] #164893
06/30/11 03:01 AM
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Very true statement Mal16. I had insurance for Havoc. None of his allergy stuff was covered. ZERO!!! Why? Because as a puppy he was seen for all those things Diogy is being seen for. We did not know if it was allergies but the insurance company said s evidenced in his records, he had allergy issues as a puppy therefore it was pre-existing. You are better off opening a savings account expressly for dog stuff and putting some money in every payday.

Even Kayos was covered for nothing. I never got a penny out of insurance for either dog. I went through 2 different companies and finally gave up. Kayos' Pannus was considered a heriditary condition common to GSD's - not covered. I would not waste my money.

On the other hand some people swear by it.

I sent you a private message. You will see a flashing flag by the "my Stuff" on the bar across the tope of the page. No need to respond unless you want to just did not know if you knew how to open it.


Kathy

PTE,AC,URO3,AG2,UCD Xtra!Xtra! v. TeMar CDX,GN,RE,CGC,TC,HIC, Bh "Havoc" 6/4/07
PAM, URO3, UCD, UACH Tidmores Rising Star Lydia "Mayhem" CD,BN,RE,AX,AJP,OFP,P1J,CA,DN,HT,TKN,TC,CGCA 4/4/12

Lucky, Wolf, Max, Kayos - gone not forgotten. gsdhalo
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