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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: SunCzarina] #156239
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It looks better but still not good.


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: BowWowMeow] #156256
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It's a lot less sensitive (I can touch all over, even pick at the nail) but still bleeds and oozes nonstop. I think he prefers it wrapped now. If I unwrap it, he is constantly stopping and trying to bend over, like it itches and he can't help but stop and bite it. If it's wrapped, he doesn't seem to notice (but cannot be trusted to not chew at it for fun during the day). The nail is so close to being gone. The bottom piece which you can't really see in the newer pics is like a very loose tooth. The top piece that looks like a normal black nail in the first set of pics is now white/clear like it lost pigment or the black parts fell off.

Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156260
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It is gross! sick it is most likely the pressure on his foot that is keeping it open and oozing. Have you tried putting calendula cream on it? If you can find a calendula/hypericum mix I would go with that because the hypericum helps with the pain/itching.

I also really like Rejuva Spray. When someone has a nasty owie around here I use the Rejuva Spray during the day and the calendula once in the morning and once at night, before bed.


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: BowWowMeow] #156282
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I haven't put anything on it but what the vet gave me. I'm supposed to keep it coated in the antibiotic powder so anytime I change the wrapping (2-3 times a day) I re-apply the powder. She was pretty adamant about keeping the powder on it for at least two weeks. I might run out and have to get some more (mainly b/c Pan got hold of it, bit it, which put a little hole in the side and I lost some).

Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156284
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LOL naughty Pan Puppy. I wonder if the vet could inject it with antiboitic? Hurts just thinking about it...


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: SunCzarina] #156286
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Calendula is a natural antibiotic and also promotes rapid skin cell regeneration. Your vet probably won't have heard of it but that's what I'd use. It has worked to quickly heal up some nasty stuff on my dogs on on me too.


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: SunCzarina] #156288
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Originally Posted By: SunCzarina
LOL naughty Pan Puppy. I wonder if the vet could inject it with antiboitic? Hurts just thinking about it...


Yeah, no kidding! I squeezed the bottle which usually poofs out the powder and it shot out the side instead of the top. He also chewed on the tape I use to keep the wraps in place.

He is on cephlex (oral) and this powder stuff is also supposed to contain something that makes it numb? "tetracaine" Apparently you can cut cocaine with this stuff, haha!

Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156310
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He's a puppy, tape and a bottle much better than ripping the stuffing out of a couch rofl

Tetracaine is a local anesthetic but as far as I know, it doesn't have any antibacterial properties. Maybe that's what's missing in healing it up? Ask your vet but I'm thinking maybe some plain bacitracin and then dip the nail in the tetracaine?

You've already got the tetracaine, no sense in buying a brand name bacitracin with benzocaine or lidocaine in it (that's what I've used and the dogs have no interest in eating it)


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Re: Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: MaxaLisa] #156327
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Just looked at the pictures.

I can't find where you described what happened, did you see the injury occur?

If you follow up the "toe", is it enlarged with inflammation?


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: SunCzarina] #156335
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Originally Posted By: SunCzarina

Tetracaine is a local anesthetic but as far as I know, it doesn't have any antibacterial properties. Maybe that's what's missing in healing it up? Ask your vet but I'm thinking maybe some plain bacitracin and then dip the nail in the tetracaine?

You've already got the tetracaine, no sense in buying a brand name bacitracin with benzocaine or lidocaine in it (that's what I've used and the dogs have no interest in eating it)


It's neomycin? I think? It's an antibacterial powder that also contains tetracaine. Plus the oral antibiotics twice a day for two weeks.

Lisa, I wasn't here when it happened. I was in Florida for a week. DH called me and said Coke "peed" on the bed. I was skeptical because DH wasn't really sure if it was pee, and IMO pee is pee. Coke's pee is yellow and smells like pee. When I got home, I noticed wet spots on the bed. Easily mistaken for pee but I've seen those spots before, slobber from a dog chewing a foot (Kenya used to obsessively chew a foot). I also noticed small blood stains on the bed spread. So, I set about checking my dogs over and found it was Nikon with the split nail that was the cause of the foot-chewing-slobber-mark and small blood stains. I arrived home on a Sat. night at midnight, Sunday he was basically lame on that leg, and so I took him to the vet Monday afternoon as soon as there was an open spot (April 17). He originally was on Simplicef(sp?) and Deramax(sp?). After the round of Simplicef it looked better and he was not showing pain or discomfort, but then it got worse again so we went back and were given the Cephlex and powder (May 9). Our next appointment is already scheduled for May 31.

Luckily, the pad does not seem swollen. It's not red and he is not bothered when we touch or even squeeze it hard. If you see hair loss that is from the tape used to keep the wrappings on and waterproof. The only thing that hurts is if you actually touch the tissue inside the nail. Now it seems it starts to itch when it is not covered but that is rare, only when I'm changing the wrap or it gets ripped off and I'm preparing a new one. I can pick at the little remaining pieces of nail and he doesn't mind. I've been able to keep trimming back the broken pieces of nail without much more than a flinch from Nikon. I've also had my girlfriends at training check it every weekend, as changes are more obvious to them once a week, since I see the foot several times a day and get to thinking it's better or worse but it's hard for me to really see change.

Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156337
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I think those patio blocks that he posed on was the culprit for his toe...bet he got caught in one when running.
I'm glad he's good with the muzzle, that would have been worse if you had to keep a cone on him.


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Jane Jean] #156341
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Okay, good, there was a reason for the injury. I don't want to overreact, but you have to be careful with toe stuff.

Max had that happen to his dew claw and they cut it back.




About a week or two after that, this developed:



It required removal of the dew claw after that, the vet thinking it was something sinister. Luckily they didn't find anything but gobs of inflammatory cells and reactive bone?

Anyway! You might try soaking in warm epsom salts? I don't know if that would sting though? I've found that aloe vera gel helps too.


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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: MaxaLisa] #156345
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I've been soaking once a day, warm water and epsom salts. He doesn't seem to mind.

Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156452
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OW Lisa that one looks raw!

First, we soak (and I gentle massage the pads to work out any dirt)



Then, I gently towel dry the foot, trim off any extra nail if I can, and pick out any hairs or dirt. This is what it looks like clean. That dead piece of nail on the bottom is really loose. I tried to pull it off last night and he didn't even care, but it didn't come off yet.





Then, I powder it (a lot!)



Finally, I put a sock on it and tape it in two spots which keeps the sock from sliding down and bunching. I have to go get more socks today since I'm out of rags (if he's not crated, he wears a hole through the sock in a few hours).


If he goes outside, he either wears a "boot" over the sock, or I put more tape around the foot to waterproof it.

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Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156487
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He's so handsome but that nail, blecchhhhhh!


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