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Re: Would this work? [Re: BowWowMeow] #155285
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I've been using duct tape for three days now since I ran out of socks, athletic tape, and vet wrap (and none of those did any good anyway). He can chew/rip through anything. There really is no barrier for his teeth short of encasing it in cement. He doesn't even chew that hard, really, but he has such strong teeth he can get through 5 layers of different wrappings in about 10 seconds.

We tried my friend's muzzle but GSDs really need a custom fit muzzle especially for that long a period I feel. It smashed his face pretty bad so I didn't use it. A basket muzzle is no good b/c he will lick through it. A mesh muzzle (what I have) is too restrictive for unsupervised use. It is hot and humid here now so I need to be sure he can breath and pant comfortably. A leather muzzle would work but by the time I fit and order one it will be a week or two before it arrives.

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Re: Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155286
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Can you ask for special permission to bring him to work?


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Re: Would this work? [Re: BowWowMeow] #155288
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I could but I sincerely doubt it would be granted plus he would be distracting and get in the way of my work. I have to jump up a lot and don't always work at my desk. I don't have an office, so there's not a door I can close to keep him in place and he does not fit in a crate with the cone (it gets jammed and he panics). He follows me when I get up. So far the few times I've snuck him in for a quick visit people think it's cute but you never know. Also, the guy on the other side of my cubicle has severe allergy problems and has been really sick for a long time so we have to be sensitive of that.

I was thinking of finding a cheap dog daycare but even then, I doubt there's one that will literally watch him ALL day. Plus he is intact so that rules out most options. frown

Our next appt is the 31st and we are supposed to keep the wound clean, dry, and not licked for two whole weeks so we have this weekend to finally figure out a solution....

Re: Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155289
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If you can't find another alternative, he can stay here with me at the apartment during the day (after Tuesday).

ETA: He would be chilling in the bedroom with me during the day while I sleep. I sleep light and he could sleep on the bed so I would be able to keep an eye on the foot. As long as he would listen if I told him NOT to chew on it lol. But in all seriousness, I am game to give that a try if you can't figure out a way to get him to stop.

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Re: Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155290
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Have you tried any sort of container? I'm just throwing out ideas here...but something really durable that you could make a boot out of? Like a little stainless steel bowl?

And I also think it's worth trying something like Valerian. He's got an OCD thing going now and it's self-rewarding.


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Re: Would this work? [Re: BowWowMeow] #155293
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Thanks Falon, appreciate that. I e-mailed Ron to see if he has a muzzle, not sure why I didn't think of that before.

Ruth, I was trying to think of the same thing, how to protect the foot in something he can't/won't chew, something that is safe for him all day...hmmmm.....

Re: Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155295
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What about some sort of cage for his foot? Like if you got some light-weight wire or even a small/tight basket muzzle and got that on his foot? So he couldn't get to the toe? I am thinking kind of muzzle in reverse...

Sure, just let me know if you want to do that. You could drop him off in the am and pick him up after work. I just sleep and watch movies when I am supposed to be sleeping LOL


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Re: Would this work? [Re: FG167] #155356
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Plates did not work, not that I expected it to. Came home to cone on, plates shredded, wrapping gone. The wound looks different, I can't tell if it's better or worse.

Ron is bringing me a basket muzzle and a tactical muzzle on Sunday. PULEEEEEEZE pray that one of these works!! Hopefully the tactical muzzle works. Or maybe I can find a Chi sized basket muzzle for the foot!

Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: Liesje] #155789
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Huge sigh of relief! Friends agree his foot is looking better, and Ron's basket muzzle works great. There's still an inch of room between Nikon's nose and the end of this muzzle. We tried on six different muzzles in the past few days and this is the only one that Nikon did not even seem to notice having on. The others either didn't fit at all, or fit OK but he still whined and tried to scrape them off. Once I put it on, he just walked off and started prancing around like we were doing obedience. He even did some civil agitation work with it on and got to "bite" the helper's bare body so he got a confidence boost. He can still wear the cone at night so his face gets some free time but I think the muzzle is the best solution for while I'm at work. Since it's correctly fitted for a GSD, he can still pant and bark. He will have to wear a boot at the same time since he can lick through the basket but Falon lent us a nice boot.

He's not showing any pain in the foot anymore. No limping and no reaction when I'm cleaning it and wrapping it. He ran two lure courses yesterday (earned a CA leg and did a second fun run).

One more week of oral antibiotics, two more weeks of topical antibiotic powder, Epsom soaks, and wrapping the foot and then we see the orthopedist for the final decision on whether the infection has caused enough damage for amputation.

Re: Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: Liesje] #155847
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I'm so glad that you were able to manage it. I would have never thought of a basket muzzle to keep from the licking and chewing. Do you have a link to the one that ultimately worked? Maybe not a bad idea to have around....


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Re: Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: Liesje] #155849
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I'm glad you found something that works - basket muzzle, duh of COURSE!


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Re: Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: MaxaLisa] #155852
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
I'm so glad that you were able to manage it. I would have never thought of a basket muzzle to keep from the licking and chewing. Do you have a link to the one that ultimately worked? Maybe not a bad idea to have around....


I can ask. It's probably not cheap, he said it is a DPO competition muzzle (DPO is similar to SchH but more for police dog type work, and in many protection sports, dogs must show commitment to engage even while muzzled). He can lick through it so proper wrapping/boot will still be a must.

It looks like this

Re: Nikon's foot - thank goodness! [Re: Liesje] #155907
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The picture works...that way I have an idea of what was used. Thanks!


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Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: MaxaLisa] #156207
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Do you think it's looking better?

This pic is from over a week ago. He just had a bath so the area is clean. This was three weeks after the nail split.


Then this was two days ago. I took the pic and THEN soaked his foot so it's a bit dirty and of course after I took the pic I trimmed the hair on the foot pads, trimmed the broken nail back a bit further. I can take a new one tonight.



Re: Nikon's foot - is it better? [Re: Liesje] #156237
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I do think it looks much much better but its still icky. Poor boy, no wonder he wanted to chew on it, looks like it had a nasty itchy infection.


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