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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: DianaB] #154688
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He's back under my desk again since the sun came out outside. Cone is off and I'm correcting him for attempting to lick the foot, but now he's sleeping. Maybe if I can break the habit he won't have to wear it 24/7 for 2 weeks.

Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: Liesje] #154709
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we've had minor irritations on the foot that required a cone for Siena. We would cone at night and if we weren't there, and if we were and wanted a break from the cone, we'd get a childs sock, spray it with bitter apple, and apply with a pressure bandage so it stayed on. They can still get to it, but the taste deters them (unless they're weird and like it!)


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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: DianaB] #154986
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Saw this in the paper tonight, thought of poor Nikon! rofl

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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: Jane Jean] #154996
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Too funny! Hope Nikon is doing well.


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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: Ruthie] #155061
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My vet had put a rope made of a roll of gauze inside the loops as a tie, that worked well to keep the thing on but not mark up Otto's neck.

I don't want to poke fun here but you'll look back and laugh. I do. Wasn't at all funny at the time! We've had these discussions as they were growing up, how much alike Otto and Nikon are. I know your pain. I had huge scrapped up purple contusions on both legs from where he smashed me with that cone. He's smash it into the woodwork, run head first into a doorframe trying to bash it off his head, walk through the house bashing it off things, knock my children down with it.

By the end of his 10 days in the cone, it was bent into a narrow oral looking thing, chewed and dented. I have it in the basement as the spoils of war, pull it out once in a while to demonstrate what a beast Otto is.

He learned how to play ball with the cone on. I have a movie of him chasing the hose spray wearing it. It's titled 'Commander Crazy Cone'

rofl that cartoon!

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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: SunCzarina] #155071
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That comic is fabulous! Right now my problem with the multiple dogs is that Pan keeps attacking the cone.

The issue is not keeping the cone on (he hasn't taken it off yet) but that he can still reach the foot even with it on. My friend brought me her cone from her vet...exact same size.

Today I'm trying a different way of wrapping the foot. When I'm home it's no biggy because I can keep him occupied, and at night he sleeps fine with the cone on, but I have to work full time, there's just no possible way to monitor him 24/7 and we don't get to use FMLA for dogs like my co-workers have for watching their kids (grrrr!).

He's being a very good sport about the whole thing, I just get frustrated because this is a minor, common injury (has happened to him before!) that has now literally ballooned into possibly amputating part of his foot b/c he just won't f---ing stop chewing on it. I have NO problems physically correcting a dog for something that is for their own health and safety, and he's not a sensitive dog, but I can't correct him when I'm not there for 9 hours straight. I'm doing everything I'm supposed to - oral antibiotics twice a day (he's a "pill" to pill), antibiotic powder on the infection several times a day, soaking in epsom salts, cleaning and re-wrapping it, cleaning his cone b/c it's hot and humid here now so it is constantly fogged and covered in slobber, helping him eat and drink with the cone on (he can't pick up food so I have to hand feed him). He's just being a little scheister! He accepts the cone but if I could only make him understand he wouldn't have to wear it IN THE FIRST PLACE if he did what we said.

Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: Liesje] #155094
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Frustrating. Wonder if you could put anything on the bandage so he'd leave it alone? With Otto, I could probably pack it with carrots and broccoli...

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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: SunCzarina] #155106
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I've used bitter apple in other contexts and it doesn't deter him one bit. I wonder if he's chewing at it simply b/c it's there, something to chew at? If it's chewed off again when I get home, maybe tomorrow I'll try leaving it unwrapped. It doesn't necessarily have to be wrapped, that was supposed to help keep him off it.

Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: Liesje] #155108
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What if you wrap it then give him something else to chew on? Something "special" - maybe one of those Himalayan Chews?


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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: FG167] #155112
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A couple of ideas (I apologize if these have already been suggested):

1) Have you tried putting a sock on his foot over the bandage and using a strip of velcro to keep the sock on? You could even use two strips of velcro: one at the ankle and the other up higher on his leg.

2) As a last resort, can you give him a sedative?


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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: BowWowMeow] #155126
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Falon, this morning I tossed a Kong and knuckle bone down the stairs and then remembered he can't chew those with the cone on anyway. He has them when I'm home and the cone is off.

Ruth, 1) yes I had been using a sock taped behind the foot and above the hock to keep it from sliding off or bunching up. He chews the end off, exposing the foot. He's gone through half a dozen of my socks in the past few days. I also have/had several dog boots that are held on with a velcro strap. Again he chews the tip off, doesn't even need to pull the whole thing off to get at his foot. 2) I'm not against it but not sure what to try. I have (for dogs) melatonin, benadryl, elavil, and prozac. I do need him to be alert and active when I'm home and for training.

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Maybe a steel toed bootie? J/K

I know people use ACE to knock their dogs out but have no idea the dosage or how long it knocks them out for. Benadryl might make him drowsy. Here is a bunch of ideas for herbal or homeopathic things to try (read the reviews and look for something for OCD behaviors).

http://search.onlynaturalpet.com/search.aspx?avs|Health+Condition=Anxiety+%2f+Stress&avs|Pet+Type=Dogs

I would try that Tranquility Blend from Animal Essentials. I'm sure you find it cheaper somewhere else.


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Re: Help with Cone of Shame! [Re: BowWowMeow] #155165
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He's such a weirdo, he totally leaves it alone when I'm home (cone off). If only I didn't have a job, lol! Then he wouldn't get so bored. Maybe if I leave the cone OFF so he can chew his bones and Kongs?....

Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155271
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This morning I was brainstorming other ideas. I ended up duct taping several paper plates around the cone, to make it longer. We'll see if that helps but I doubt it will stop him.

Then I wondered if this could work....say I take the infected foot and sort of fold the leg up (like how it is when a dog is lying down) and bandage it that way, so the foot is tucked up and cannot extend? He'd be on three legs, but lots of dogs only use three legs. This way he can't possibly extend his foot into the cone for chewing. He's still wear the cone to prevent removing the bandage, which he would not be able to reach. Is that too mean?

We also had some other more impractical ideas, like a remote collar with a repeater, a nanny cam with audio so I can verbally correct him when he goes at his foot....

I'm not against sedatives per se but I don't see how I can sedate him enough to keep him from chewing for two weeks 8 hours a day. Ironically, the more active he is, the better it is b/c he leaves the foot alone even with the cone off. The more calm he is, the more likely he will just lie there and chew at himself. A sedative would have to knock him out completely to really be effective.

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Re: Would this work? [Re: Liesje] #155283
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I wouldn't tape his leg up. He may hurt himself trying to undo that situation and you'd have another problem.

What about duct taping the sock? Just trying to think about how to create an effective barrier from his teeth! Is there a safe muzzle you can leave on him?


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Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
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Chama
Kai
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