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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: MaxaLisa] #19551
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Cephalexin is rough on the digestive system!

Try the slippery elm but you need to give it an hour from the meds. It will hopefully make her gut feel better!


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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: BowWowMeow] #19676
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It's tough when one part is going so well and another isn't. hugging

I agree with the slippery elm, I use Phytomucil (has SE in it), and it's been a life saver!


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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: Barb E] #19682
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Don't get her too firm if she can't push it out though right? They need to use their legs to help boost the poop don't they? Of course, not saying you want her to have diarrhea, but I kept my ortho girls poop softer with canned food.

I think Tramadol would bind wouldn't? That might be why she's a bit antsy? http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_tramadol.html (constipation)

So something to make her tummy feel okay and her poop easy to get out without bearing down, or am I overthinking the poop process too much?

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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN] #19784
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Siena's diet has included slippery elm (2 tsp a day) for about two years now, as well as petdophilus for the past year. Whe her tum is bad, like now, we've added in Fast Balance GI which is a heavy duty probiotic and usually does wonders. I am always hesitant to use yogurt because of the dairy, that doesn't always agree.

I've not tried l-glutamine... where would I find that? Is it a human supplement too? I've heard of it, but not sure where to get it.

No BM yesterday (always a good sign) and this morning, she went out and had a half decent poop (formed, but soft) with the ending being a bit mushier and a bit of what we call 'follow up' where they walk a few feet, try again, walk a few more feet, try again (I think you get the picture).

The doc agrees it is likely the antibiotic, but he is hesitant to take her off too early (and I agree). If I can manage it through diet and supplements for another 10 days (today is our half way mark on the ab) then we'll be ok.

She happily ate the oats/beef mixture last night and this morning (usually wont' eat in the morning) so that is good.

It's difficult to space these things out (esp. when I return to work tomorrow). Meds in AM and dinner, probiotics at lunch and bedtime is how we do it now.

Phytomucil ... is that like metamucil? we have tons of that, but again, would have to space it out so it doesn't inhibit the antibiotic absorbtion.

Jean... we have never had any issue with constipation or hard poos (well, literally maybe one or two). She seems to be able to pee and poo normally with little discomfort. She is getting more canned food right now than normal and could also be part of the problem. She likes it though and we use it to hide her meds in it which works well. Putting just a bit (half can per day) in her meal to help it taste better.

I used to take Tramadol for my neck and it definitely gave me the constipation, but hasn't seemed to do that for Siena. Doc says it could be one or all the meds collectively doing this. She's down to two now, the ab and sedative so hopefully that will help it ease up a bit.

Overthink poop??? never! Poop has been a huge discussion over her entire life.

Oh, she gets her sutures out on Thursday morning (yeah!) and will get an exam from the surgeon too so he can check her progress.


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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: DianaB] #19960
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Probioitics and Antibiotics do not give at the same time. Allow if you can 4 hours between on to the other. If you don't the ABX works really hard at killing the tummy bacteria and may not have enough strength left for the stuff it is suppose to kill.

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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #19979
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I think metamucil can be pretty constipating for some.

L-glutamine is great for healing the digestive tract, it's one of my favorite supps. I buy the stuff for humans, have found tablets not so effective, capsules are effective, and powder the most effective (I mix it in a bit of apple juice before bedtime). Anywhere between 500 mg to 5000 mg daily. Probably somewhere in the middle of that range would be a good starting point.


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Re: Hip Replacement Surgery (pics included) [Re: MaxaLisa] #20033
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I do space out the ab and pb. Didn't know this until recently (from a board posting) so am aware of the needed time between. I find the capsules in most things are generally better than tablets anyhow and powder more than that. I'll check out the l-glutamine. Do you take it, Lisa? or do you give it to the dogs in apple juice? (just curious as I don't think Siena would like apple juice).

prepping to go to bed soon... have to face the work office tomorrow after 10 days away... that's always FUN smile Hopefully if Siena gets up, she'll spend her first night in there since surgery. Fingers crossed.


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Pre and Post Op Xrays [Re: DianaB] #20597
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Today I received the pre and post op xrays from Siena's recent hip replacement. These are much clearer than the ones I originally posted on the other forum and you can see how bad it was before the surgery. She was relatively active for having such bad hips (really shows in Pre-Op#3) and we think she has a high threshhold for pain since she obviously broke it at one point and NEVER limped until 6 months ago.

I am posting similar views, the first being pre-op then comparing post-op.

Pre-Op#1

Post-Op#1


Pre-Op#2

Post-Op#2


Pre-Op#3

Post-Op #3


Pre-Op#4

Post-Op#4


She is still sleeping in the living room. Can't be bothered to get up and walk to the bed room. She is, however, taking us on laps around the yard when we have the potty break. She's really starting to see improvements and get stronger every day. We've almost gotten through the first two weeks (2 more days). She's got her follow up with the doc tomorrow and will get her sutures out. Then, we'll see what is next.

I sent a note to the doc about me coming home and finding her in the crate surrounded by her balls... his response was "What a GREAT update! I absolutely love the thought that she is gathering up her toys....what a wonderful image....and it's why I do what i do smile Look forward to seeing you on Thurs." It totally made me smile! StPatDance

Oh, and the other bit of great news is she had a PERFECT POO last night groovy Guess what we're doing with the oatmeal and ground beef while on the meds is working - yippee. 9 more days on the antibiotics... the countdown begins...


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Re: Pre and Post Op Xrays [Re: DianaB] #20606
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Diana that is just great. Neat comparison x-rays.

With my dogs when they have to have ABX I just put them on home cooked right away. I figure it is a nice treat for them since some of the ABX can be pretty hard on the digestive track and they like to stop eating kibble, with the home cooked it takes care of the no eating problem.


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Re: Pre and Post Op Xrays [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val] #20615
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Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
Diana that is just great. Neat comparison x-rays.

With my dogs when they have to have ABX I just put them on home cooked right away. I figure it is a nice treat for them since some of the ABX can be pretty hard on the digestive track and they like to stop eating kibble, with the home cooked it takes care of the no eating problem.


I always seem to forget the obvious, such as this. Aside from the tylan, she hasn't been on abx for a while (a bit for her aural hematoma, but only 3 days). It's so hard to cook so much food, but I'm happy to do it for a couple more weeks - after all, I did it for a full year, so this is a vacation smile

I am happy to see the x-rays like this too. I suspected he'd only send the new xrays (post op) but sent me both, which was great, as you say, for a comparison.


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Wow.. I totally missed Siena's surgury!

I am glad to hear that everything went well and that she is on the mend!

You will need a vacation when this is all over, either that or a massage and a nice long nap! wink


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Re: Pre and Post Op Xrays [Re: elisabeth] #20805
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Originally Posted By: elisabeth
Wow.. I totally missed Siena's surgury!

I am glad to hear that everything went well and that she is on the mend!

You will need a vacation when this is all over, either that or a massage and a nice long nap! wink


Thanks very much AND I like the way you think thumbup


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What a great update and cool before and after shots. Keep up the good work you guys!!


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Re: Pre and Post Op Xrays [Re: MaxaLisa] #20986
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
What a great update and cool before and after shots. Keep up the good work you guys!!
We are quite happy things are progressing as they are. I can see the no exercise will be tough. She's already starting to get antsy. I started looking at the "Play with your dog" book and have seen a few things I can do there.

She's tearing apart (figuratively) her squeaky toys and balls now (and ignoring dinner ... ooh, she must know I wrote that she just took a couple of bites ... yeah). She is full of beans right now. I guess the good part is she's on her feet and using the leg.

Richard is in TX right now and I had him on speaker phone and he did is signature whistle and Siena kept tilting her head and she walked over to my phone and tapped it with her nose as Richard talked to her. So very cute! She can just melt our hearts sometimes (a lot, actually). wub

Have a nice evening everyone. Will status you when I see the doc tomorrow. Cheers.


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Wow! I'm glad the surgery went well Diana. No exercise might be hard, I know it would be hard for my pup. I wish you guys the best, and thanks for sharing.

P.S. Those x-rays are cool looking!


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