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Re: Max has started dragging his back feet. [Re: bianca] #112283
12/07/10 01:27 PM
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Re: Max has started dragging his back feet. [Re: Sylv] #112570
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I'm so sorry to hear this. Hugs to you and Max. hugging


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Re: Max has started dragging his back feet. [Re: PositiveDog] #112590
12/08/10 03:54 AM
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Thank you. We will keep him going for as long as we can, or perhaps I should say, for as long as he wants. We are hoping that it will be slow in progressing, but with the rate it has moved so far we are not too sure. frown

Re: Max has started dragging his back feet. [Re: Charlotte] #112594
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Charlotte,
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. It’s everyone’s worst fear… There is a DM support group and a website with lots of information:

http://www.mzjf.com/main.htm

There’s also a Yahoo DM group:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/degenerativemyelopathylist/

I love what it says on there. “Remember, there IS life after a diagnosis of DM. It's just a little different.”

Sandy's (AgilePaws) Starine is using a cart and doing well with it. Check out her avatar!

Hoping for the best for your Max… hugging


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Re: Max has DM :-( [Re: Charlotte] #112614
12/08/10 05:55 AM
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I am so sorry, this really really sucks hugging


Originally Posted By: Charlotte
Not sure what is next frown


Clemmons has a supplement protocol out there that some have reported good success with. I have also thought that the supplement Alpha Lipoic Acid should help prevent further deterioration of the nervous system.

There is some information here: http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/forum/....html#Post48612


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Re: Max has DM :-( [Re: MaxaLisa] #112672
12/08/10 10:44 AM
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DM is an auto-immune disease. No totally unlike MS in humans. There is some meds that will slow it down. Find a veterinary universality for info and watch the far out info on the net.
I have a PF dog and wasted a lot of time looking for solutions. A University of Pennsylvania vet helped me.

Sorry to hear about the diagnoses.


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Re: Max has started dragging his back feet. [Re: Charlotte] #112758
12/08/10 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: Charlotte
I had bought some mucklucks for Max a few weeks back. He had worn a small hole in one of them after about 1 week of use. We figured we can tape it up a bit to make it last. But last night we put a brand new boot on and by the time we were done with our walk, we walked about 2.5 miles, he had worn a hole in the new one. I think I will need to find some sturdier boots for him.


Instead of boots, I recommend the nail caps again that I posted about earlier in this thread. In contrast to boots, they do not bother the dog at all, they last about six weeks, and they cost far less. They come in a package of 40, and a senior who drags the hind legs typically needs the two middle toes capped. So one box of 4o nail caps lasts over a year, at a cost of 20 bucks or so. Feli was very happy and comfortable with them. They come in different sizes, you cut the length to fit your dogs nails' length, and glue them. When they are worn, they can be taken off easily, and replacement caps fitted. Of course I used the clear nylon, no pink or blue nail caps on my beautiful dog (or on me)!

The nail caps work as long as the dog's paws don't knuckle over, then the upper side of the paw scrapes. Then boots are inevitable, but until then I went with the nail caps. When it comes to boots, Feli's rehab vet recommends these:

Booties specifically 'for dogs with Degenerative Myelopathy, Spondylosis, Arthritis or other clinical problems leading to paralysis of the spine' and who drag their paws: http://www.tammyandteddys.com/products.php
I also posted them in the Stickie that Lisa created on 'Harnesses and Boots':
http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5854/2.html

I am so sorry to hear about Max' problems. My best wishes to you and your dog.


Sarah
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Re: Max has DM :( [Re: shepnterrier] #112808
12/08/10 07:13 PM
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Thank you to all of you hugging

He does knuckle over, not all the time but enough to have to use boots. I will check out the ones you recommend.

On a good note - Max did his regular 2.5 mile walk last night, a little stiffer then normal, but it is unseasonaly cold here in DC. We came home and Max asked to be let out in the yard, and Eyra went with him - he proceede to initate play with her and they were out wrestling around for a good 10 minutes. That but a big smile on my face smile

Re: Max has DM :( [Re: Charlotte] #121458
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Max is not having a good day today. He walked 2 blocks from the house and that was it. He turned around and started walking back home, not caring that Eyra and D was continuing forward. DH stopped and let him rest for a while and we caught up with them about 10 minutes later. Max was still walking slow and panting rather hard for such a slow walk. frown

He still has a sparkle in his eye, but he tires very quickly, and we have noticed that his hearing is not all that good. He has started falling over every now and then when he turns around. We also had some skin issues a few weeks back but we switched his food and that seemed to have taken care of that.

Re: Max has DM :( [Re: Charlotte] #121462
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I'm sorry that Max is having more trouble walking. It is heartbreaking when they go downhill like that. hugging

Have you looked into a cart?


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Re: Max has DM :( [Re: BowWowMeow] #121800
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Originally Posted By: BowWowMeow
I'm sorry that Max is having more trouble walking. It is heartbreaking when they go downhill like that. hugging

Have you looked into a cart?


We have started researching carts but we are not "there" quite yet. Hopefully he will continue to walk on his own.

Re: Max has DM :( [Re: Charlotte] #121810
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If you're thinking about a cart, I've read that getting it while they can still walk to some extent makes it easier for them to adapt to the cart.


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Re: Max has DM :( - update [Re: Woodreb] #148379
04/12/11 06:04 PM
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I think it is time for an update on Max. His dragging of his left back foot has gotten worse, and he has lost a lot of muscle mass in his back legs. We can no longer do our 2 miles walks, he just does not have the stamina any longer. But we try to do about 1 mile every day, but he cannot walk with any of the other dogs anymore since he can't keep up frown. So we do the slow leisurely walk through the neighborhood every evening and we stop when he wants to for a breather and to meet people.

I have noticed that going up and down the stairs is becoming increasingly difficult, or it seems starting off is the problem and once he gets going he is ok. But he is still the same goofy dog, playful and mischievous. I bought him some puzzles to keep his mind going and he seems to enjoy it (or rather the food that is hidden in them) and he stills wrestles with Eyra on occasion in the yard.

Re: Max has DM :( - update [Re: Charlotte] #148381
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I'm sorry to hear that Max is slowing down more. Do you have a good harness for him? I used a harness to get Chama up and down the stairs. It made a HUGE difference because neither she nor I had to worry about her falling.


Ruth

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Kai
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Re: Max has DM :( - update [Re: BowWowMeow] #148384
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Oh dear. I am sorry to hear Max is slowing more. I second the harness. I had the Ruffwear harness for my Max and it gave him a lot of support.


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