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Probiotics - Coated or Stabilized? #106627
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Do probiotics for dogs need to be coated or stabilized to survive their stomach acids and work properly?

What kind do you use?

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I don't use any in pill form because, thankfully, my dogs seem to have cast iron stomachs! Either that, or I have figured out what I positively can't give them (which usually turns out to be some form of people-food!). I do, however, give them non-fat yogurt every day.


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They get yogurt already. I was discussing this with Lisa and she suggested giving Banshee probiotics because we're giving her other meds that could be killing the good bacteria.

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I'm glad you asked this question because I was wondering the same thing.

I've been using AccuFlora from Costco. They are not coated.


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Re: Probiotics - Coated or Stabilized? [Re: LJsMom] #106661
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Is coated the same as stabilized? Or is stabilized something that is done in the process of creating the probiotics?

Where is that Ruth when you need her!? LOL

Re: Probiotics - Coated or Stabilized? [Re: LifeAsMe] #106663
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For really high powered, effective probiotics I use: http://www.ojibwatea.com/zc139/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21

Cleo gets that and so does my partner's dog. Rafi is getting petdophilus right now. I bought it for Cleo and it wasn't working so well for her but he does fine on it.

I also have used the probiotic pearls for the dogs.

There is definitely not enough probiotics in yogurt to depend on that, especially when giving antibiotics.


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I knew you would show up! smile

What is the difference between coated and stabilized?

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Yes, probiotics are us around here! We all take them. I think I have at least 3 different kinds in the house right now. crazy


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I use a good grade of Human Probiotics for my dogs. There are strains of Probiotics that are more acid resistant than others, but don't ask me which ones. So I just go with a Good Quality human product.


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Re: Probiotics - Coated or Stabilized? [Re: BowWowMeow] #106676
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Originally Posted By: BowWowMeow
There is definitely not enough probiotics in yogurt to depend on that, especially when giving antibiotics.

That was going to be my next question. My dogs aren't on any medications - I take that back... Chance is on thyroid medication - but what would be the medications that destroy good bacteria and warrant extra probiotic supplements?


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Any form of Antibiotic. I also feel that as dogs age they benefit from being given Probiotics.


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Banshee isn't on an antibiotic. She does take tagamet which reduces the stomach acid. The theory was this could be messing with her balance and causing some other problems. So it's possible that probiotics are needed for other meds than just antibiotics?

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Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
I also feel that as dogs age they benefit from being given Probiotics.

Why? Not arguing - seriously want to know.


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Digestive function often gets worse as anyone ages but this is not the case for everyone. I don't think all dogs need probiotics as they age but I do think they help if dogs (or people or cats) are having more trouble with digestion.

Also, probiotics work best when taken in the morning.

And I do think they are warranted with a med that is decreasing stomach acid or any med that is tough on the tummy.


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Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
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Chama
Kai
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Massie
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LAM, any thing that upset the natural balance of the digestive track is a good place to try Probiotics.

GrandJan, I just feel that as dogs age (humans also) that it is easier for the system to get overloaded with bad bacteria, maybe not enough to see that they need a medication but enough to affect proper digestion. Probiotcs are not a miracle they are just good friendly bacteria, the more good stuff the less room for bad stuff.


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Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
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RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
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