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#33304 - 04/17/10 11:50 PM Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it?
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http://www.peerless-pet-food.ca/

Has anyone, particularly in Canada, heard of this? I was just told about it - evidently a local breeder of American Show line GSDs has all his dogs on it and swears by it. I'm told his dogs look great, don't know why because the ingredients look pretty indifferent. The office is in Vineland, near Niagara Falls but the site does not say where the food is manufactured. I know a bit about dog foods, have researched all the major brands available in Ontario and this is the first time I have ever come across Peerless. None of my go-to websites list or review it and I have never seen it in a retail store. Not that I'm about to switch to it from Acana/Origen, lol!
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#33313 - 04/18/10 12:00 AM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Quinnsmom]
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nope, never heard of it!

just looked at the ingredients- def. something I wouldn't feed to my dog!
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#33319 - 04/18/10 12:04 AM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: GSDTrain]
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Originally Posted By: GSDTrain
nope, never heard of it!

just looked at the ingredients- def. something I wouldn't feed to my dog!


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#33329 - 04/18/10 12:34 AM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: KITTIEG]
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I just looked at the ingredients too.

Where's the food?

It looks worse than Purina One.
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#33396 - 04/18/10 10:09 AM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Buoyant Dog]
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I would pass on this.

Poultry meal and ground corn as the first 2 ingredients. No thanks. I would look twice if it was chicken meal, or duck meal instead of the nondescript poultry meal.

I had a conversation with the derm vet about food about 3 weeks ago when Hav was in for testing. She said for a long time corn was considered a bad boy in high quality food. She said current research may do a turn around on that as they are finding it does not cause problems in dogs. Never the less, I would not feed it if there was better stuff out there.

I see this company also carries Joy dog food. I have fed Joy many many years ago when it was considered about the best out there. It is about the same as this Peerless food. But bottom line if your dog is doing well and you are happy with it then by all means continue to feed it.
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#33413 - 04/18/10 11:07 AM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Kayos]
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The ingredients alone would tell me to back off...
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#33461 - 04/18/10 03:22 PM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Kayos]
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Originally Posted By: Kayos
She said for a long time corn was considered a bad boy in high quality food. She said current research may do a turn around on that as they are finding it does not cause problems in dogs.


All the studies in the world can be conducted. It doesn't change the fact that my dog had chronic diarrhea, a dull coat, tarter buildup, and dirty ears on things like corn, soy, wheat, rice, etc.

Most dogs in America suffer from the things Glory was going through (anyone see soft-serve poo at the dog park?), and they will continue to do so because they're owners just think it's normal.

Since Glory switched to a high protein, low carb, grain free and RAW diet, all these things have cleared up with nice solid poops.

All of the official studies in the world can say what they want, but no study is necessary in our situation - Glory's condition speaks for itself.
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#33485 - 04/18/10 04:12 PM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Kayos]
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Originally Posted By: Kayos
I had a conversation with the derm vet about food about 3 weeks ago when Hav was in for testing. She said for a long time corn was considered a bad boy in high quality food. She said current research may do a turn around on that as they are finding it does not cause problems in dogs. Never the less, I would not feed it if there was better stuff out there.


Egads, so very disappointing to hear this come from a Derm (that and their insistance on the uselessness of blood allergy tests!).

No need to step backwards in dog food, particularly as feed corn becomes more and more adulterated.

The sad part is that these are the docs that folks go to when their dogs are in trouble. It's just disturbing.
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#33509 - 04/18/10 04:53 PM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I have never had a dog have an issue with corn that I was aware of. Then again Havoc has never had it. Kayos did as a little pup but not after I got her. Max was fed food with corn for a few years as were my 2 previous GSD's. Lucky never had issue with it but Wolf had chronic gooey poo that I never attributed to corn. I was also a dog noob and there was little or no research on food and there was no such thing as grain free.

BD I was not in any way endorsing corn in food, just stating what I was told. Do I agree? Not right now, not til I see a whole lot of nutrition specialists step up and endorse it. I was actually pretty surprised to hear that.

As for the blood allergy tests, the skin prick test is still the gold standard per every vet I have asked. I don't believe it is useless and I don't think I said the vet said it was useless. I do think I said the vet said it was not the best test available and not the one she chose to use. The skin prick test allows testing for more allergens and a wider variety of allergens which is why she uses it. I do need to read more on the blood tests as I was told that it was useless for food allergies.
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#33537 - 04/18/10 06:47 PM Re: Peerless Dog Food - anyone heard of it? [Re: Kayos]
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This is just a pet peeve of mine, the corn issue. It wouldn't matter to me how much research, or what specialists say that corn is okay. First thing we used to do at training with the new clients is get them off food with corn - huge difference in behaviour and trainability. And with all the feed corn now being GMO, and Starlink corn being approved for feed, there is no way I would feed a kibble with corn. I do on a rare occasion feed the dogs here some organic sweet corn. Digestively they do fine - and it makes Indy very energetic. I would never feed them feed corn.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to put words in your Derm's mouth, or yours, I was kinda summarizing all the Derm posts that I've seen on the boards. It was one of Indy's vet that said he used to send his clients to UCD for the skin test, but had found much more reliable results with the VARL blood allergy test. I can see where a skin prick test would allow more environmental allergens to be tested, but I guess I was focusing on the food part, because most owners are fiddling with food, and allergy supplement programs for the environmental allergies. I can see why it might be more helpful to test for more stuff if one is going to do allergy shots, though you can only have so much stuff in those shots.

I've just seen too many vets and derms NOT run the blood test for food, when it could have helped a lot of dogs if use properly frown

On the flip side, I am so happy that Havoc has been responding though. That's a huge relief!
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