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#212412 - 02/13/12 04:42 AM Critique Viking's Breeding
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Be blunt, please. I tried to find his dad on the Pedigree Database and could not unfortunately, so I just took a picture of my picture pedigree. The other confusing thing is that I found an article online about the mom being titled for Schh 2 but it's not on the pedigree. I did see her doing some impressive protection work though when I first met with the breeder. I emailed the breeder about it and I'm waiting to hear back.

So... let me know what you think.

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#212443 - 02/13/12 09:23 AM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: ladyfreckles]
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There are some nice dogs here. I like that Kevin is in the pedigree, have always liked Kevin V. Murtal. I see Ursus is there too.

I would not get too wrapped up in the titles.
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#212450 - 02/13/12 09:38 AM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: ladyfreckles]
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Just a reminder.... Negative messages are to be sent in PM's.


It appears that the sire Patron Diego is a repeat breeding, I found the same sire and dam on the pedigree database in the "L" litter. I did a test mating to get the line breeding:
Line-breeding - 5 generations

5,5 - 5........................................... in VA8 Max della Loggia dei Mercanti
5 - 5............................................. in VA11 Perle vom Salzgitter Milieu
5 - 5............................................. in VA2 Jango vom Fürstenberg
5 - 5............................................. in V31 Una von Oxsalis
4 - 4............................................. in VA3 Esko vom Dänischen Hof
4 - 4............................................. in VA14 Lea vom Holtkämper See


The pedigree Database is only as up to date as people keep it, it is an open database so anyone can input and update info, which at times can be a problem.

I have a female out of a SchH3 female and she is not SchH material. So having a nice pedigree on paper is no guarantee that your pup will be suited for SchH.


The ZW scores on the sire and dam are nice. Verified here: http://www.schaeferhund.de/site/index.php?id=688 Type in Zeder Kamme and change the drop down to Zwinger
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#212458 - 02/13/12 10:18 AM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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LadyFreckles, I'm no help on WGSL pedigrees, but it's always acceptable to post one of Patron Diego's full siblings like http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=597767 and just make a note in your post that it's actually a full sibling, not the sire himself.
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#212626 - 02/13/12 11:41 PM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: Emoore]
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He's related to Dena - her sire was Kevin vom Murrtal. smile
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#212632 - 02/13/12 11:59 PM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: Cassidy's Mom]
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Orbit is a great dog. I was looking to breed my import to a dog out of him. It looks like a nice German Showline pedigree. Karat's Yolker rings a bell. I am not familiar with Frankengold or Zeder kamme, but they have some nice dogs behind them.
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#212645 - 02/14/12 02:17 AM Re: Critique Viking's Breeding [Re: Selzer]
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Originally Posted By: Selzer
Orbit is a great dog. I was looking to breed my import to a dog out of him. It looks like a nice German Showline pedigree. Karat's Yolker rings a bell. I am not familiar with Frankengold or Zeder kamme, but they have some nice dogs behind them.


Yay!

Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
Just a reminder.... Negative messages are to be sent in PM's.


It appears that the sire Patron Diego is a repeat breeding, I found the same sire and dam on the pedigree database in the "L" litter. I did a test mating to get the line breeding:
Line-breeding - 5 generations

5,5 - 5........................................... in VA8 Max della Loggia dei Mercanti
5 - 5............................................. in VA11 Perle vom Salzgitter Milieu
5 - 5............................................. in VA2 Jango vom Fürstenberg
5 - 5............................................. in V31 Una von Oxsalis
4 - 4............................................. in VA3 Esko vom Dänischen Hof
4 - 4............................................. in VA14 Lea vom Holtkämper See


The pedigree Database is only as up to date as people keep it, it is an open database so anyone can input and update info, which at times can be a problem.

I have a female out of a SchH3 female and she is not SchH material. So having a nice pedigree on paper is no guarantee that your pup will be suited for SchH.


The ZW scores on the sire and dam are nice. Verified here: http://www.schaeferhund.de/site/index.php?id=688 Type in Zeder Kamme and change the drop down to Zwinger


Wow, extremely helpful. Thanks!


Originally Posted By: Emoore
LadyFreckles, I'm no help on WGSL pedigrees, but it's always acceptable to post one of Patron Diego's full siblings like http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=597767 and just make a note in your post that it's actually a full sibling, not the sire himself.


I didn't know you could do that. Thanks.

Originally Posted By: Cassidy's Mom
He's related to Dena - her sire was Kevin vom Murrtal. smile


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