#211998 - 02/11/12 09:05 AM
My heart literally STOPPED
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The worst possible thing imaginable happened yesterday.
Amaretto was walking out on a prong that we just fitted to address some behavior issues. We were walking on the sidewalk right outside my house, located at an busy intersection at the downtown of a small city. Somehow, when she pulled a little on the prong, one of the links CAME LOOSE. She ran from the side walk INTO the busy traffic both ways. We have just started restrained recall, and we both SUCK at it. So naturally, she wagged her tail and thought it was the best game ever. Traffic stopped both ways and she was just running rampant on the road. At one point, she ran slightly under the front of an SUV, and the SUV decided, "oh, no dog on the road, must be safe to start driving now". I screamed like in the movies "puuppppyyy". And I guess the driver must've seen the horrific look on my face and stopped.
I ran across the street and into an empty lot slightly fenced with cement blocks. Luckily, pupper followed me in. About 10 pedestrians came and helped me block off the little gaps between the cement blocks and help grab her as she bolted around. She thought it was the best game ever. Someone helped me grab her collar as she was running, and I immediately hooked her back to her flat collar. We went to the pet store, and got a tab for her prong instead.
The prong was just a quick thing I bought at a local pet store. One of the links came out again when I was correcting from the tab. Needless to say, I am NEVER going out with that prong as our main collar again.
This is a lesson on the importance of recall and the importance of buying quality equipment.
Thanks to the people of Kingston for stopping in the road, and for helping me catch her.
I posted this exact story on the "other" forum, and know most of you guys frequent that one as well. But I thought it was such a potent experience that everyone should hear about it, and if not already on prong + backup or prong + rock solid recall, HOP ON THE BANDWAGON NOW NOW NOW!
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#212001 - 02/11/12 09:17 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Marshies]
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Registered: 02/18/10
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OH MY GOD!!!!!! Okay now that you are breathing again........ Buy a Herm Sprenger. When you attach the leash clip it to the prong and the ring on the flat collar. If this ever happens again you still have a leash and collar attached. I have used prongs for 20 plus years and this has never happened to me but I know it has happened to others. Shame on me for not thinking of it and mentioning it on your other thread!  You are a new dog owner and would have never thought of this. Why would you? Let me look around for some links for a good prong for you.
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#212002 - 02/11/12 09:25 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Kayos]
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Found my favorite site. They have a US and Canadian shipping I think they are actually in Canada. I like the second one with the two straps, it does not tighten, so is more moderate. This is very similar to the one I use. Harder to pop open but I still clip the leash to the Martingale collar my dogs wear all the time. http://www.dogsportgear.com/Prong-Collars_c_57.htmlThese are the martingale collars I use for daily wear and where I order them from. Mine have name and phone number embroidered on them too. There are many places that make stuff similar. Pikoda on this site makes them too and many order from her. The D rings and loops are big enough to easily accommodate double clipping leash to both collars. http://cozycritter.com/martingaleclip.htmThank goodness she was not hit. That is my WORST nightmare. 
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#212004 - 02/11/12 09:32 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Kayos]
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Kathy,
Thank you for your posts! I am ordering one right away. What size and material do you use? It completely isn't your fault, my trainer said I didn't need another collar when I asked if I can keep the flat on as well. But of course, after yesterday, Amaretto is only wearing the prong on a tab. It suits my needs too. I'm just worried her tab is too heavy/long.
Her behavior is MAGICAl on this prong collar. I don't use it for ANYTHING else other than biting because stuff like leash pulling, etc, can be trained positively for her.But just 1 day, and maybe 4 corrections. She bolted out of her crate today and went for my slippers. Usually, I put them on and she is still chewing and sometimes moves to my legs. Today I put them on, she chewed, I said NO. She backed off immediately. She doesn't mouth my hands and is a JOY to pet now. LOVE HER and LOVE you guys for getting on me immediately to use it.
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#212008 - 02/11/12 09:43 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Marshies]
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Two views of Havoc with his martingale and standard (slip prong that tightens)   A view of Kayos with her snap prong (does not tighten) and her martingale. The pink tab is just a key ring for me tell the collars apart easily. Havoc has a snap prong too with a blue tab on it. I tend to use the standard prong more on him tho.  Sorry they are grainy, just took them with my cell phone for this purpose. Measuring instructions should be on the website. I order either the 3/4 inch wide or 1 inch wide for Kayos. She is a little smaller. Havoc gets a 1 inch wide collar.
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#212009 - 02/11/12 09:43 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Marshies]
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Registered: 02/20/10
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I can only imagine your fear when she was in traffic. And wow - kudos to all who stopped to help you. There are places that would not have happened. You have good people around you!
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#212011 - 02/11/12 09:45 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Kayos]
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Kathy, I'm confused. If someone is using a prong for corrections, how do you do that with it attached the way you show it? Wouldn't it pull on the martingale also and limit the prong correction?
Am I just not seeing it right?
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#212014 - 02/11/12 09:53 AM
Re: My heart literally STOPPED
[Re: Kayos]
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When I order a prong I always use the small links and order 2 extra links. That will be plenty long enough and allow room for growth. I think the links are the 2.25 mm? For the martingales I order the 1 inch wide mostly. (Kayos is wearing a 1 Inch in the picture). You can measure her flat collar and use that as the length to order. The martingale is adjustable so there is room for growth too. Mine are cotton and I like the soft feel and the fun patters. Havoc is wearing mossy oak and Kayos is wearing pink butterflies. They are washable, when the dogs get a bath I wash collars too. Both dogs have a few collars. Kayos has squirrels, daisies, and pink tie die and Havoc has tractors, US flags and chili peppers. I change them out every now and then for variety. The dogs could care less I am sure. 
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