German Shepherd Home

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#197207 - 12/03/11 07:51 PM Dog vs. Human Probiotics
GrandJan Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 1972
Loc: NE PA
Likes: 71
I’m being very lazy by not doing my own research on this, but does anybody know off-hand if I could give my own probiotics to my dogs if needed? I realize our digestive systems are different, but as far as I know, my probiotics are basically ‘natural”. Any difference in strengths, pill coatings, etc.?
_________________________
Jan - Mom to:

Beau & Chance - German/Anatolian Shepherds
Bailey - Labrador Granddog

Top Likes: 0 
#197209 - 12/03/11 07:57 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: GrandJan]
LifeAsMe Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 2994
Likes: 31
My understanding is the probiotic needs to be stabilized or coated to within the stomach acids. I think I might have started a thread a long time ago but can't remember where it is!

Top Likes: 0 
#197211 - 12/03/11 08:15 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: LifeAsMe]
GrandJan Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 1972
Loc: NE PA
Likes: 71
Thanks, I'll do a search.
_________________________
Jan - Mom to:

Beau & Chance - German/Anatolian Shepherds
Bailey - Labrador Granddog

Top Likes: 0 
#197214 - 12/03/11 08:33 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: GrandJan]
LifeAsMe Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 2994
Likes: 31
Aren't yours either coated or stabilized? I think Dr. Becker has an article about probiotics and requirements.

Top Likes: 0 
#197218 - 12/03/11 09:02 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: LifeAsMe]
MaxaLisa Offline

Global Moderator

Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 18635
Loc: Northern CA
Likes: 223
I've always used human probiotics and enzymes for the dogs.

I think it would be better to have a "dog probiotic", but I haven't seen a good one that I thought was sufficient (i.e., with studies)....there are only a few out there, and they have all sorts of allergenic fillers.

It is thought that the coated ones don't work in dogs because they pass through too fast, though they worked when I used them for Indy.

eta: I should add, Max is allergic/intolerant to most probiotics and digestive enzymes, it can be tricky. You are luck GJ you don't have to deal with allergies!


Edited by MaxaLisa (12/03/11 09:15 PM)
_________________________
MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

Health Index
K9 TBD info and Tick List Links
http://www.rabieschallengefund.org/

Top Likes: 0 
#197220 - 12/03/11 09:21 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: MaxaLisa]
LifeAsMe Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 2994
Likes: 31
I think your answer is here, Jan.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/hea...st-disease.aspx


Everything I've read states that the probiotic should be coated or stabilized so it withstands the dogs highly acidic stomach. However, the theory that a coated probiotic would pass through rather than colonize the gut also makes sense. I'll have to look into that more.

Per the above article, the difference is in the species appropriate probiotics which certainly makes a lot of sense.

Top Likes: 0 
#197221 - 12/03/11 09:37 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: LifeAsMe]
LifeAsMe Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 2994
Likes: 31

Top Likes: 0 
#197222 - 12/03/11 09:49 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: LifeAsMe]
GrandJan Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 1972
Loc: NE PA
Likes: 71
Thanks much! I'm anxious to start reading...

Oh, and I LOVE Dr. Becker!!! And Cindy too!
_________________________
Jan - Mom to:

Beau & Chance - German/Anatolian Shepherds
Bailey - Labrador Granddog

Top Likes: 0 
#221030 - 03/25/12 07:17 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: GrandJan]
MaxaLisa Offline

Global Moderator

Registered: 01/26/10
Posts: 18635
Loc: Northern CA
Likes: 223
I'm not sure where to put this, so I'll just put it here.....

I was using PB8, nondairy version, for Max. It didn't work very well, and I figured it was just him. There was a big difference when I switched to this one: http://www.crohns.net/page/C/PROD/OMX1060

Anyway, LJsMom sent me a review from Consumer Labs that showed that PB8 did not pass their tests and contain *much* less probiotic than stated on their label. It was one of the few that did not pass.

So, I guess the less is, if it doesn't seem like it's working, try a different product!
_________________________
MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

Health Index
K9 TBD info and Tick List Links
http://www.rabieschallengefund.org/

Top Likes: 0 
#221059 - 03/25/12 09:11 PM Re: Dog vs. Human Probiotics [Re: MaxaLisa]
PositiveDog Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 4530
Loc: Ohio
Likes: 113
I use a children's probiotic, because it contains so many more strains of bacteria than the adult ones. It is a powder and is kept refrigerated. I get it at the health food store - a kennel owner (don't know them) gets hers there and swears by the children's type. shrug

I do not put it in my dogs' food since it to be given without any protein. And I feed it at least an hour before a regular meal. I mix a teaspoon into a bit of applesauce and both dogs love it.

I use Natures Way:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Way-Primadophilus-Children-5-oz-141-75-g/10270?at=0

I tried the Arks Naturals for dogs, in capsule form and it did not stop Skye's gurgling as did the refrigerated powder.
_________________________
Bonnie

www.dogtors.com

With approval of my friends:
Skye, 09/2003 CGC, Certified AAT, retired
Buddy, 04/2000 CGC, Certified AAT, retired
SamCat, 03/2011

Seiko, Solo and Sophie bridge dogs who taught me so much

Top Likes: 0 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Support the Forum in Diane's Memory
Click Here to Support the Forum in Diane's Memory
Help Support the Forum
Click Here to Help Support the Forum
Newest Topics
Just a few of the girls:
by Selzer
04/25/15 09:33 PM
Preplaning Funeral Arrangments
by Shilohsmom
04/25/15 03:38 PM
Behavioral Medications for Dogs
by Kayos
04/23/15 08:57 AM
Free, Multiple Items — Vetri Science, Only Natural
by MSD
04/23/15 08:51 AM
Backsliding?
by Tally
04/22/15 01:18 PM
Athos and Asia at 13 Months`
by Indra
04/22/15 09:48 AM
Here's Heidi!
by Karin
04/21/15 08:41 PM
Prayers Needed
by Shilohsmom
04/21/15 11:32 AM
Greeting Strangers?
by Codmaster
04/19/15 02:27 AM
Happy birthday Stark & Zefra!
by elisabeth
04/15/15 11:14 PM
New Topics - Other Animals & Chat
Night terrros in a kitty
by MaxaLisa
04/25/15 08:56 PM
Nepal Earthquake
by Barb E
04/25/15 03:31 PM
Look who has tv remote
by SeanRescueMom
04/20/15 09:37 PM
Vertigo
by SeanRescueMom
04/17/15 08:29 PM
Green Thumb??
by Caja's Mom
04/13/15 08:36 PM
Who's Online
3 registered (Woodreb, DogsX3, Braverhund), 19 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Newest Members
Mohit, nathaniel swan, GSDrodos, tsuki's dad, Wolfgang, hhs, leelee, Jlo23, Mustafa, Christopher
2423 Registered Users
Forum Stats
2423 Members
99 Forums
19285 Topics
309875 Posts

Max Online: 133 @ 07/03/13 09:55 PM
Amazon Prooducts
Affiliate Link 2